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Those who care about the Fourth Amendment are probably more libertarian than anything, so left/right doesn't make sense for this particular issue.
by clarkmoody 11y ago
Those who care about the Fourth Amendment are probably more libertarian than anything, so left/right doesn't make sense for this particular issue.
- bobwaycott 11y agoOh, come on. The Fourth Amendment has existed and been debated, challenged, abused, and defended long before libertarians were calling themselves a thing. Suggesting libertarians care about it more is just additional partisan nonsense. And it's partisan nonsense that doesn't make sense for this particular issue. Plenty of right-leaning Americans care about the 4th. Plenty of left-leaning Americans care about it, as well. We could maybe tease out some commonalities among them in relation to how they define the contours of Fourth Amendment issues. But beyond that, you're pretty much just making stuff up. I realize there's a great many HNers who love to brandish their libertarian badges at every opportunity, but it makes for a really annoying echo chamber, and it creates unnecessary partisan division on issues we could otherwise rationally discuss.
- clarkmoody 11y agoWhere's the fire? Lowercase-L libertarian means that you care about liberty. I could have said "classical liberal," which would encompass modern libertarians and the Founders alike. > echo chamber I'm not getting a strong libertarian vibe from HN on anything except encryption/privacy, which is really ironic.