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As a veteran with PTSD, I can say without a doubt this was probably helpful to the guy who got the DUI. Every veteran knows the "hole" story, and it is absolute

As a veteran with PTSD, I can say without a doubt this was probably helpful to the guy who got the DUI. Every veteran knows the "hole" story, and it is absolutely true. When I was in a dark hole myself after my last tour, I came home and just laid on the floor in my living room drunk. I couldn't do anything. Couldn't leave the house. Couldn't do anything but just lay there on the living room floor and drink, staring at the ceiling. My best friend in the universe (a legit BFF, if you will), he came and laid next to me on my living room floor. It's hard to describe what that means to someone that's never experienced it. But I will tell you without a doubt that both of those guys got something worthwhile out of sitting in jail together. We spend years sitting in holes in the army (or some other kind of shitty situation), and it becomes natural to draw strength from the unity of having a buddy in the shitty situation with you ("We are experiencing this shitty thing together"). It is pretty important I think to have the same opportunity as veterans after leaving the service. I've since done very similar things for friends of mine, and I encourage any veterans reading this to do the same for anyone you know going through similar trouble.

m1n1 11y ago
Is that BFF also a veteran? Just curious.
- fapjacks 11y ago
  Yeah. He was the forward observer (13F) in my infantry platoon. I talk to him every day, just about all day. Mah BFF.
  - bootload 11y ago
    for those who want to understand the 13F role ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFqFdX3h8gI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFqFdX3h8gI
  - m1n1 11y ago
    Is it key that he's a veteran? If he wasn't a veteran would he still be able to help you? Would it be different and if so, how?
bootload 11y ago
"I came home and just laid on the floor in my living room drunk. I couldn't do anything. Couldn't leave the house. Couldn't do anything but just lay there on the living room floor and drink, staring at the ceiling. My best friend in the universe (a legit BFF, if you will), he came and laid next to me on my living room floor." For those who don't understand the dynamics described here, Sebastian Junger has made a film, "Coming Home" that explores why for Vets coming home, it's harder than their last tour. [0] [0] http://www.wnyc.org/story/the-last-patrol-focuses-on-coming-home-from-combat/ http://www.wnyc.org/story/the-last-patrol-focuses-on-coming-...

m1n1 11y ago

Is that BFF also a veteran? Just curious.

fapjacks 11y ago
Yeah. He was the forward observer (13F) in my infantry platoon. I talk to him every day, just about all day. Mah BFF.
- bootload 11y ago
  for those who want to understand the 13F role ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFqFdX3h8gI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFqFdX3h8gI
- m1n1 11y ago
  Is it key that he's a veteran? If he wasn't a veteran would he still be able to help you? Would it be different and if so, how?

bootload 11y ago

"I came home and just laid on the floor in my living room drunk. I couldn't do anything. Couldn't leave the house. Couldn't do anything but just lay there on the living room floor and drink, staring at the ceiling. My best friend in the universe (a legit BFF, if you will), he came and laid next to me on my living room floor." For those who don't understand the dynamics described here, Sebastian Junger has made a film, "Coming Home" that explores why for Vets coming home, it's harder than their last tour. [0] [0] http://www.wnyc.org/story/the-last-patrol-focuses-on-coming-home-from-combat/ http://www.wnyc.org/story/the-last-patrol-focuses-on-coming-...