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Hysterical. The female rate is < 1/3rd that of men and still the articles first five paragraphs focus almost entirely on women.

MollyR 11y ago
Where did you get this number ? I've skimmed the article and couldn't find it. It seemed a little strange they didn't didn't do direct comparisons between genders to me as well. I couldn't shake the feeling this was to be part of a larger narrative.
- stray 11y ago
  The numbers aren't in the article. The article links to the study -- the numbers are in the study: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db241.htm http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db241.htm
- carsongross 11y ago
  Here is a graph from the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/201-250/db241_fig1.png http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/201-250/db241_fig1... Men killed themselves at about 4.5X the rate of women in the past, and at about 3.5x the rate of women now.
dave2000 11y ago
Isn't this female rate increasing faster than the male rate? If one of your children was behaving badly at school and the other child was normally good but started to misbehave wouldn't you focus on the latter child to see what had changed?
- Joof 11y ago
  Ah yes, normalized deviance.
  - dave2000 11y ago
    Very civil disobedience.
- stray 11y ago
  No. The female rate increased less than the male rate. The male rate was already 3 times the female rate, and increased slightly more -- but because the female rate was so low to begin with, the female rate represented a 200% increase. Out of 100,000 -- females started off at 0.5 and increased to 1.5. Males otoh, started off at 1.5 and increased to 2.6.
  - dave2000 11y ago
    So the female rate increased more then?
    - stray 11y ago
      No. The female rate (per 100,000) increased by 1.0 while the male rate increased by 1.1. 1.1 (the male rate increase) is greater than 1.0 (the female rate increase). Irresponsible reporting however, made it seem otherwise.

MollyR 11y ago

Where did you get this number ? I've skimmed the article and couldn't find it. It seemed a little strange they didn't didn't do direct comparisons between genders to me as well. I couldn't shake the feeling this was to be part of a larger narrative.

stray 11y ago
The numbers aren't in the article. The article links to the study -- the numbers are in the study: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db241.htm http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db241.htm
carsongross 11y ago
Here is a graph from the CDC: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/201-250/db241_fig1.png http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/images/databriefs/201-250/db241_fig1... Men killed themselves at about 4.5X the rate of women in the past, and at about 3.5x the rate of women now.

dave2000 11y ago

Isn't this female rate increasing faster than the male rate? If one of your children was behaving badly at school and the other child was normally good but started to misbehave wouldn't you focus on the latter child to see what had changed?

Joof 11y ago
Ah yes, normalized deviance.
- dave2000 11y ago
  Very civil disobedience.
stray 11y ago
No. The female rate increased less than the male rate. The male rate was already 3 times the female rate, and increased slightly more -- but because the female rate was so low to begin with, the female rate represented a 200% increase. Out of 100,000 -- females started off at 0.5 and increased to 1.5. Males otoh, started off at 1.5 and increased to 2.6.
- dave2000 11y ago
  So the female rate increased more then?
  - stray 11y ago
    No. The female rate (per 100,000) increased by 1.0 while the male rate increased by 1.1. 1.1 (the male rate increase) is greater than 1.0 (the female rate increase). Irresponsible reporting however, made it seem otherwise.