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Well I'm sure you'll be down-voted but in case you come back to check the replies I'll just say I'm sorry that you can't accept the world at the moment. Unless

Well I'm sure you'll be down-voted but in case you come back to check the replies I'll just say I'm sorry that you can't accept the world at the moment. Unless the singularity happens really soon and someone bootstraps a benign godlike AI to take us under it's wing I think we're stuck with a very high (five 9s ?) probability of dying. It's fine to rail against it but sometimes you have to accept that you were born in the dark ages and life is short.

TeMPOraL 10y ago
It's not either/or. We could accept that and fight it, so that our children, or our children's children won't have to die anymore.
- anonymous778 10y ago
  I agree, the question is not "Should we work on it or death is OK?" but "What are we doing to solve this problem?". For example there are people doing amateurish experiments on rodents, other people tinkering with ML and so on. Of course I "accept" death as a fact of life that happens to almost everyone by default. But note that saying that death is a fact of life is a bit wrong because there is a handful of exceptions, 100s of rich people that opted for cryopreservation. They have a small chance of coming back later in some form. Most people in the world don't (because 80k$ is a too big sum for them).
anonymous777 10y ago
I can accept the world. I have 2 relatives already dead, though I'm not very emotional about it. I just want to emphasize that this is the world we have built with our own hands. It's not the worst world possible, but we can do better than that. >Unless the singularity happens I think S-word in mostly a meme. You can apply ML to biological problems right now. You don't need strong AI for it (though ofc even subhuman general ai would be of great help to science, if you look at deepmind's interview that's exactly their goal) >I think we're stuck with a very high (five 9s ?) probability of dying. It depends on our own actions as well. At least one could opt for cryo, ofc it isn't a guarantee of anything but still it's a chance. You may think I'm talking like a futurist or a transhumanist, but in fact I'm just an ordinary technical person trying to be realistic (and disliking involuntary death). If our western culture really values human life as much as declared, then we as a society should focus more on increasing quality of life and longevity, instead of exploiting each other for profit.
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TeMPOraL 10y ago

It's not either/or. We could accept that and fight it, so that our children, or our children's children won't have to die anymore.

anonymous778 10y ago
I agree, the question is not "Should we work on it or death is OK?" but "What are we doing to solve this problem?". For example there are people doing amateurish experiments on rodents, other people tinkering with ML and so on. Of course I "accept" death as a fact of life that happens to almost everyone by default. But note that saying that death is a fact of life is a bit wrong because there is a handful of exceptions, 100s of rich people that opted for cryopreservation. They have a small chance of coming back later in some form. Most people in the world don't (because 80k$ is a too big sum for them).

anonymous777 10y ago

I can accept the world. I have 2 relatives already dead, though I'm not very emotional about it. I just want to emphasize that this is the world we have built with our own hands. It's not the worst world possible, but we can do better than that. >Unless the singularity happens I think S-word in mostly a meme. You can apply ML to biological problems right now. You don't need strong AI for it (though ofc even subhuman general ai would be of great help to science, if you look at deepmind's interview that's exactly their goal) >I think we're stuck with a very high (five 9s ?) probability of dying. It depends on our own actions as well. At least one could opt for cryo, ofc it isn't a guarantee of anything but still it's a chance. You may think I'm talking like a futurist or a transhumanist, but in fact I'm just an ordinary technical person trying to be realistic (and disliking involuntary death). If our western culture really values human life as much as declared, then we as a society should focus more on increasing quality of life and longevity, instead of exploiting each other for profit.

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