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This really seems like a terrible market for a state to be so openly involved in.
by Aelinsaar 11y ago
This really seems like a terrible market for a state to be so openly involved in.
- joeld42 11y agoSo they should be clandestinely involved, instead? They're going to do it anyways, I'd rather know about it.
- Aelinsaar 11y agoFalse dichotomy is false. They didn't have to do this, and by all accounts, received nothing of value for the money.
- euyyn 11y ago> by all accounts, received nothing of value for the money How can you know that?
- GeechieCloud 11y agocome on do all internet comments have to be perfect? how about "by all public accounts to date". I'd have though that extra context wasn't necessary.
- noir_lord 11y ago> I'd have though that extra context wasn't necessary. New to the internet? Unless you lawyer every possible comment against the most uncharitable reading while combining it with the kind of source research that would make a Harvard law professor weep a tear of joy you'll get called on it.
- d_t_w 11y agoNext time, just link: https://pchiusano.github.io/2014-10-11/defensive-writing.html https://pchiusano.github.io/2014-10-11/defensive-writing.htm...
- jdbernard 11y agoThe point is that the people who would be in a position to provide concrete evidence one way or another are very unlikely to make a public account. "All public accounts to date" that I know of are basically hearsay.
- euyyn 11y agoI was just being charitable. If I had to bet, he has no idea and no way of knowing (because the FBI isn't going to go around disclosing whatever intel they got from the phone). But maybe he had a way of knowing, so I asked. Turns out he didn't.
- Aelinsaar 11y agoI can't KNOW it, which is why I said, "By all accounts".
- cpncrunch 11y agoAccording to their own account they did get their money's worth: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/19/politics/san-bernadino-iphone-data/ http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/19/politics/san-bernadino-iphone-... The fact that the FBI have confirmed there were no contacts with other ISIS members is valuable information.
- enraged_camel 11y ago>>How can you know that? We can't. That's the problem! The government just spend a million fucking dollars to access a phone's contents, and we have no idea if it was worth it. This lack of accountability is what's causing them to flaunt civil liberties so brazenly and shamelessly. If cornered, they always use the "it's a matter of national security!" excuse.
- Aelinsaar 11y agoYou should look into Pentagon procurement, especially for the big projects like the F-35. Eisenhower would weep.
- jsprogrammer 11y agoDon't they have a tool to get into other iPhone's now? $1,000,000 doesn't seem too bad.
- carlosdp 11y agoNot necessarily, they might not own the tool, just paid for someone to use it on the phone.
- jsprogrammer 11y agoThe subtitle quote indicates that the tool was bought outright.
- Absentinsomniac 11y agoAFAIK, the exploit only works on older iphones. It'll quickly lose value going forward.
- orky56 11y agoYou can't put a price on national security. Never mind, they just did and they got to define national security as well.
- Aelinsaar 11y agoThere is no indication that it wasn't what had been claimed they could always do, and that's physically clone NAND gates. Remember, the FBI wasn't after data in the first place, they were after a legal precedent.