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"Supposed to respond to?" Yes, by driving. The alerts take the form of "Traffic ahead". "Police ahead", etc. There is no interaction required, or even expected

"Supposed to respond to?" Yes, by driving. The alerts take the form of "Traffic ahead". "Police ahead", etc. There is no interaction required, or even expected unless you really want to poke the thumbs up "yes, this alert is still valid" button. (And if you can't do that safely, given the size and consistent location of the button, you probably shouldn't have a license anyways)

emodendroket 11y ago
> unless you really want to poke the thumbs up "yes, this alert is still valid" button. Which is precisely what the app encourages people to do.
- Karunamon 11y ago
  See last line. Nobody's getting into wrecks because of Waze.
- emodendroket 11y ago
  The problem is not the mechanical difficulty of pressing a large button, the problem is that the application popping up alerts and encouraging you to press the button means taking your eyes away from the road.
- enzanki_ars 11y ago
  You are encuraged to use the "hands free" option of reporting in the app by waving your hand over your phone.
- enzanki_ars 11y ago
  You are encouraged to use the "hands free" option of reporting in the app by waving your hand over your phone.
  - emodendroket 11y ago
    "Hands free" technology is intuitively appealing but in reality it's about as distracting as regular operation.
    - Karunamon 11y ago
      At some point we've moved into the point of diminishing returns and pointlessness. Carrying on a full conversation might be one thing - barking the words "acknowledge alert" or similar at your phone probably doesn't cause a measurable or significant distraction.
      - emodendroket 11y ago
        > It takes drivers up to 27 seconds to return to full attention after using voice commands to make a hands-free call, turn on the radio or perform other tasks, according to two studies released Thursday by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. Traveling at 25 miles per hour, that would equal the length of three football fields. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8135f446be2e4922b27dc3881155e426/car-infotainment-systems-distract-even-voice-commands http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8135f446be2e4922b27dc3881155e...
        Karunamon 11y ago
        No link to the actual study, not even so much as a DOI. Never mind "make a hands free call" implies carrying on the call... I'm calling shenanigans anyways. What on earth is the driver doing for those 27 seconds? How are they determining "full attention"?
        tamana 11y ago
        "Researchers measured the return to full attention by timing participants' response to a flashing light." The description in the article suggests that the time was counted from the start of the voice command action.
        11y ago
astrange 11y ago
The alert I see the most with Waze is "Vehicle stopped on shoulder", which is not only distracting when the yellow sign pops down and animates out, but can't possibly be relevant to my life when I'm driving in the left lane. Most of the rest are fine.
- holyoly 11y ago
  You can turn on and off each individual notification. And it also has voice commands built in to control the app. You don't even need the phone's screen on. It can be in your pocket while driving. And it is relevant to you no matter what lane you are in. If there is a car on the shoulder, someone in the right lane could be not paying attention, and swerve into you to avoid that car. Though you should be always on high alert while driving, having a little extra notification and awareness could save your life.
  - emodendroket 11y ago
    Wouldn't it be safer to pay attention to the road and notice someone swerving your way than to get an alert, look over your phone to read it, then look up to catch the swerving car?
    - pmarreck 11y ago
      What if the vehicle is around the next bend? Are you actually arguing that drivers should have less information available to them? Disclaimer: I use Waze and think it's fucking fantastic and do not understand this stupid brouhaha in this thread.
      - emodendroket 11y ago
        > Are you actually arguing that drivers should have less information available to them? I'm arguing that drivers should be paying attention to operating their cars instead of their phones.
  - astrange 11y ago
marcoperaza 11y ago
And how do you suppose Waze gets that information? People enter it while driving.

emodendroket 11y ago

> unless you really want to poke the thumbs up "yes, this alert is still valid" button. Which is precisely what the app encourages people to do.

Karunamon 11y ago
See last line. Nobody's getting into wrecks because of Waze.
emodendroket 11y ago
The problem is not the mechanical difficulty of pressing a large button, the problem is that the application popping up alerts and encouraging you to press the button means taking your eyes away from the road.
enzanki_ars 11y ago
You are encuraged to use the "hands free" option of reporting in the app by waving your hand over your phone.
enzanki_ars 11y ago
You are encouraged to use the "hands free" option of reporting in the app by waving your hand over your phone.
- emodendroket 11y ago
  "Hands free" technology is intuitively appealing but in reality it's about as distracting as regular operation.
  - Karunamon 11y ago
    At some point we've moved into the point of diminishing returns and pointlessness. Carrying on a full conversation might be one thing - barking the words "acknowledge alert" or similar at your phone probably doesn't cause a measurable or significant distraction.
    - emodendroket 11y ago
      > It takes drivers up to 27 seconds to return to full attention after using voice commands to make a hands-free call, turn on the radio or perform other tasks, according to two studies released Thursday by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety. Traveling at 25 miles per hour, that would equal the length of three football fields. http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8135f446be2e4922b27dc3881155e426/car-infotainment-systems-distract-even-voice-commands http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8135f446be2e4922b27dc3881155e...
      - Karunamon 11y ago
        No link to the actual study, not even so much as a DOI. Never mind "make a hands free call" implies carrying on the call... I'm calling shenanigans anyways. What on earth is the driver doing for those 27 seconds? How are they determining "full attention"?
        tamana 11y ago
        "Researchers measured the return to full attention by timing participants' response to a flashing light." The description in the article suggests that the time was counted from the start of the voice command action.
        11y ago

astrange 11y ago

The alert I see the most with Waze is "Vehicle stopped on shoulder", which is not only distracting when the yellow sign pops down and animates out, but can't possibly be relevant to my life when I'm driving in the left lane. Most of the rest are fine.

holyoly 11y ago
You can turn on and off each individual notification. And it also has voice commands built in to control the app. You don't even need the phone's screen on. It can be in your pocket while driving. And it is relevant to you no matter what lane you are in. If there is a car on the shoulder, someone in the right lane could be not paying attention, and swerve into you to avoid that car. Though you should be always on high alert while driving, having a little extra notification and awareness could save your life.
- emodendroket 11y ago
  Wouldn't it be safer to pay attention to the road and notice someone swerving your way than to get an alert, look over your phone to read it, then look up to catch the swerving car?
  - pmarreck 11y ago
    What if the vehicle is around the next bend? Are you actually arguing that drivers should have less information available to them? Disclaimer: I use Waze and think it's fucking fantastic and do not understand this stupid brouhaha in this thread.
    - emodendroket 11y ago
      > Are you actually arguing that drivers should have less information available to them? I'm arguing that drivers should be paying attention to operating their cars instead of their phones.
- astrange 11y ago

marcoperaza 11y ago

And how do you suppose Waze gets that information? People enter it while driving.