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I drive 9mph over speed limit and I have not been ticketed a single time in 9 years I am driving. Cultural norm is that speeding 10mph is OK so police ignores s

by smm2000 10y ago

I drive 9mph over speed limit and I have not been ticketed a single time in 9 years I am driving. Cultural norm is that speeding 10mph is OK so police ignores some speeding in most locations.

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Retric 10y ago
http://fightyourspeedingticket.com/fifty-miles-over-the-posted-speed-limit/ http://fightyourspeedingticket.com/fifty-miles-over-the-post... Speeding often has surprisingly low fines. Get caught doing 115 in a 65 mph area in Florida. That's ~1,000$ for a first offence. Second time they revoke your license for a year and more than double the fine, next they revoke it for 10 years and charge you 5k. But, first time around it's kind of meh, IMO. Of course you will probably also get reckless driving which is stiffer. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.192.html http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Displ... Considering the high risk of killing someone you would think the could come up with a better deterrent.
- johan_larson 10y ago
  Here in Ontario there are big signs on the highways that say if you're caught driving more than 50 kph (~30 mph) over the speed limit they take your license and your car (!) right there by the side of the road.
  - eric_h 10y ago
    That's news to me! Admittedly, I haven't been on a highway in Ontario in ~2 years, but I definitely never saw signs like that then (of course, I definitely saw people exceeding the speed limit by 50kph on more than one occasion, and given how quickly my uncle made it to my grandparents' house in Ontario the last time he headed over from Montreal, I suspect he may have too ;). - Canadian raised in the US, spent a fair amount of time in Canada
    - randommodnar 10y ago
      It's relatively recent, to crack down on ridiculous speeders and racers. Honestly those people deserve the book thrown at them. Going 50km over is an instant roadside suspension and a $2,000 - $10,000 fine.
- at-fates-hands 10y ago
  My cousin when he was a teenager in Minnesota got a reckless/careless driving offense when he was speeding in his new Camero around the Mall going 80MPH. He lost his license for a year, had to pay a 2K fine, had to go to a defensive driving school course and then had some 50 hours of community service to do on top of it all. He's uncle has repeatedly said he would have been better off just getting a DUI. My uncle maintains the judge was the "hanging" judge type and my cousin's other two speeding tickets didn't help him much. The funny thing is, he never got so much as a jay walking ticket after that, so the punishment definitely straightened him out.
  - wavefunction 10y ago
    A DUI would have likely been an additional $8000 in fines and an additional class(es) with MADD hammering home the potential effects of drunk driving. I think it's a lot easier to play off speeding as a youthful indiscretion than drunk driving, as well.
- cmdrfred 10y ago
  I've always wondered why production cars for road use can ever go over 100 mph. Put a governor at 65 mph and you never have to both enforcing speeding tickets again. I'm not advocating for this, but if it's so bad they will take away your ability to drive over it why not limit it mechanically?
  - qzervaas 10y ago
    Because fines provide revenue?
  - batbomb 10y ago
    There are actually places in the US where the speed limit is 80 and 85. That's not 100, but it's quite a bit more than 65.
    - cmdrfred 10y ago
      I was not aware. I make the same case with 85 as I did 65. Throw in a GPS and you could make the distinction.
      - winfred 10y ago
        Then in 10 years, someone, somewhere decides that 90 is acceptable on a specific road. Now all cars with limiters need to be modified. Want to be able to change it remotely? Now you add an attack vector. Throw in a GPS? Now you're asking for additional government monitoring that is mandatory and might be (will be) used for spying purposes.
        noir_lord 10y ago
        You could design a GPS speed limiter that doesn't track location, TomTom's had an "overspeed" warning 10 years ago, it would go orange if you went over the speed limit and go red and make a bong noise if you went way over, My old boss used to drive fast so I saw that quite a lot (in the end I told him I wouldn't share a car with him if he didn't stick to the speed limit).
plafl 10y ago
My own experience is that carse indicate something like 10% more speed than the real one. You can check that with a GPS, which gives very precise speed measurements. So maybe 9mph excesive speed will not trigger any radar.
ochoseis 10y ago
I believe the mantra in NC and probably many states is "9 you're fine, 10 you're mine"

by smm2000 10y ago

I drive 9mph over speed limit and I have not been ticketed a single time in 9 years I am driving. Cultural norm is that speeding 10mph is OK so police ignores some speeding in most locations.

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Retric 10y ago

http://fightyourspeedingticket.com/fifty-miles-over-the-posted-speed-limit/ http://fightyourspeedingticket.com/fifty-miles-over-the-post... Speeding often has surprisingly low fines. Get caught doing 115 in a 65 mph area in Florida. That's ~1,000$ for a first offence. Second time they revoke your license for a year and more than double the fine, next they revoke it for 10 years and charge you 5k. But, first time around it's kind of meh, IMO. Of course you will probably also get reckless driving which is stiffer. http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0300-0399/0316/Sections/0316.192.html http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Displ... Considering the high risk of killing someone you would think the could come up with a better deterrent.

johan_larson 10y ago
Here in Ontario there are big signs on the highways that say if you're caught driving more than 50 kph (~30 mph) over the speed limit they take your license and your car (!) right there by the side of the road.
- eric_h 10y ago
  That's news to me! Admittedly, I haven't been on a highway in Ontario in ~2 years, but I definitely never saw signs like that then (of course, I definitely saw people exceeding the speed limit by 50kph on more than one occasion, and given how quickly my uncle made it to my grandparents' house in Ontario the last time he headed over from Montreal, I suspect he may have too ;). - Canadian raised in the US, spent a fair amount of time in Canada
  - randommodnar 10y ago
    It's relatively recent, to crack down on ridiculous speeders and racers. Honestly those people deserve the book thrown at them. Going 50km over is an instant roadside suspension and a $2,000 - $10,000 fine.
at-fates-hands 10y ago
My cousin when he was a teenager in Minnesota got a reckless/careless driving offense when he was speeding in his new Camero around the Mall going 80MPH. He lost his license for a year, had to pay a 2K fine, had to go to a defensive driving school course and then had some 50 hours of community service to do on top of it all. He's uncle has repeatedly said he would have been better off just getting a DUI. My uncle maintains the judge was the "hanging" judge type and my cousin's other two speeding tickets didn't help him much. The funny thing is, he never got so much as a jay walking ticket after that, so the punishment definitely straightened him out.
- wavefunction 10y ago
  A DUI would have likely been an additional $8000 in fines and an additional class(es) with MADD hammering home the potential effects of drunk driving. I think it's a lot easier to play off speeding as a youthful indiscretion than drunk driving, as well.
cmdrfred 10y ago
I've always wondered why production cars for road use can ever go over 100 mph. Put a governor at 65 mph and you never have to both enforcing speeding tickets again. I'm not advocating for this, but if it's so bad they will take away your ability to drive over it why not limit it mechanically?
- qzervaas 10y ago
  Because fines provide revenue?
- batbomb 10y ago
  There are actually places in the US where the speed limit is 80 and 85. That's not 100, but it's quite a bit more than 65.
  - cmdrfred 10y ago
    I was not aware. I make the same case with 85 as I did 65. Throw in a GPS and you could make the distinction.
    - winfred 10y ago
      Then in 10 years, someone, somewhere decides that 90 is acceptable on a specific road. Now all cars with limiters need to be modified. Want to be able to change it remotely? Now you add an attack vector. Throw in a GPS? Now you're asking for additional government monitoring that is mandatory and might be (will be) used for spying purposes.
      - noir_lord 10y ago
        You could design a GPS speed limiter that doesn't track location, TomTom's had an "overspeed" warning 10 years ago, it would go orange if you went over the speed limit and go red and make a bong noise if you went way over, My old boss used to drive fast so I saw that quite a lot (in the end I told him I wouldn't share a car with him if he didn't stick to the speed limit).

plafl 10y ago

My own experience is that carse indicate something like 10% more speed than the real one. You can check that with a GPS, which gives very precise speed measurements. So maybe 9mph excesive speed will not trigger any radar.

ochoseis 10y ago

I believe the mantra in NC and probably many states is "9 you're fine, 10 you're mine"