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"some obnoxious people who dare dub themselves members of the “web elite” [citation needed]" Anyway, I clicked the examples the author gave of good all-Flash s

"some obnoxious people who dare dub themselves members of the “web elite” [citation needed]" Anyway, I clicked the examples the author gave of good all-Flash sites. As expected, they act weird, they pop up "loading" indicators all the time, information density seems tiny, I can't copy/paste text that I should be able to, scrolling doesn't work the way it should (argh that's so frustrating -- that's a fundamental interaction!)... oh and I didn't even try hitting the Back button. Sure, all those presumably "could" be fixed with enough work. And an MFC app could be written that rivals the latest .NET or Cocoa app. But in practice, the vast majority of apps are going to "feel" like the platform they're on. And the Flash platform feels super-sucky for information-heavy websites, if you ask me.

alayne 17y ago
I think many of your criticisms apply to current Javascript UIs also. I have seen so many UI quirks, even in the stuff you'd think would work right like YUI/JQuery UI. However, its saving grace is its composable nature. The biggest problem with Flash in my mind, and what will seal its doom, is that monolithic mentality that you should have a whole site that is only a flash program. That's wrong and throws away a large part of makes the web great. If you aren't building stuff out of the dhtml/dom substrate, if you're not basing architectural decisions on REST, you are doing it wrong.
- est 17y ago
  > The biggest problem with Flash in my mind, and what will seal its doom, is that monolithic mentality that you should have a whole site that is only a flash program That what RIA is all about. If you really hates Flash only, write your text in HTML and transfer it to Flash using javascript. It's best for both search engines and non-Flash browsers.
- tomlin 17y ago
  One-way, binary thinking FAIL.

alayne 17y ago

I think many of your criticisms apply to current Javascript UIs also. I have seen so many UI quirks, even in the stuff you'd think would work right like YUI/JQuery UI. However, its saving grace is its composable nature. The biggest problem with Flash in my mind, and what will seal its doom, is that monolithic mentality that you should have a whole site that is only a flash program. That's wrong and throws away a large part of makes the web great. If you aren't building stuff out of the dhtml/dom substrate, if you're not basing architectural decisions on REST, you are doing it wrong.

est 17y ago
> The biggest problem with Flash in my mind, and what will seal its doom, is that monolithic mentality that you should have a whole site that is only a flash program That what RIA is all about. If you really hates Flash only, write your text in HTML and transfer it to Flash using javascript. It's best for both search engines and non-Flash browsers.
tomlin 17y ago
One-way, binary thinking FAIL.