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I'm curious, anybody know if there's a simple way to wire this up to Home Assistant (https://home-assistant.io https://home-assistant.io)? My first thought was

by zyxley 11y ago

I'm curious, anybody know if there's a simple way to wire this up to Home Assistant (https://home-assistant.io https://home-assistant.io)? My first thought was MQTT, but for some reason PageNodes doesn't have any MQTT output support, which is kind of odd for something claiming to be an IoT connectivity platform.

monteslu 11y ago
Pure MQTT is done over TCP which browsers don't support without an extension. I'm trying to keep this purely web based as long as I can :) Some MQTT servers tunnel messages via websockets, sever-sent-events, and REST calls which are supported by pagenodes.
- zyxley 11y ago
  HA does have a REST API, but with the way PageNodes works you'd have to hardcode the HA password right into the PN workflow. Have you considered adding the equivalent of environment variables, which can be set in a PN account and used as placeholders in workflows?
  - monteslu 11y ago
    That's a good question. Our storage is in local indexeddb. And the site is https, so no one should see your flow if you don't share it. That said there's nothing stopping you from reaching out to another secure service or plugin before making requests.
- detaro 11y ago
  Am I interpreting it right that Pagenodes basically aims to be node-red, but in the browser?
  - monteslu 11y ago
    The goals are similar. PageNodes does its best to leverage newer browser capabilites. WebRTC, WebUSB, SeviceWorker, offline support, etc.
    - detaro 11y ago
      Ok, so less "prototype in the browser, then offload to a server once it works", but more for local "app" type things? Interesting idea, has some limitations but also opens up tons of interactions that are harder for a server-based solution (webcam, ...)
      - samrocksc 11y ago
        Bingo! It's always evolving too. We do use a lot of experimental flags from the browser, this helps work with up and coming features as well for learning about new APIs very easily.
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cmatthieu 11y ago
You could use Octoblu Meshblu node in PageNode to connect Jarvis to an MQTT platform.
- zyxley 11y ago
  Octoblu confuses me. I can't find anything about their pricing scheme (if any), while all their professional partners listed make me think there definitely has to be one hidden in there somewhere.
  - samrocksc 11y ago
    I don't believe there is any pricing scheme at all as of yet. It's a great opportunity really, check it out!

by zyxley 11y ago

monteslu 11y ago

Pure MQTT is done over TCP which browsers don't support without an extension. I'm trying to keep this purely web based as long as I can :) Some MQTT servers tunnel messages via websockets, sever-sent-events, and REST calls which are supported by pagenodes.

zyxley 11y ago
HA does have a REST API, but with the way PageNodes works you'd have to hardcode the HA password right into the PN workflow. Have you considered adding the equivalent of environment variables, which can be set in a PN account and used as placeholders in workflows?
- monteslu 11y ago
  That's a good question. Our storage is in local indexeddb. And the site is https, so no one should see your flow if you don't share it. That said there's nothing stopping you from reaching out to another secure service or plugin before making requests.
detaro 11y ago
Am I interpreting it right that Pagenodes basically aims to be node-red, but in the browser?
- monteslu 11y ago
  The goals are similar. PageNodes does its best to leverage newer browser capabilites. WebRTC, WebUSB, SeviceWorker, offline support, etc.
  - detaro 11y ago
    Ok, so less "prototype in the browser, then offload to a server once it works", but more for local "app" type things? Interesting idea, has some limitations but also opens up tons of interactions that are harder for a server-based solution (webcam, ...)
    - samrocksc 11y ago
      Bingo! It's always evolving too. We do use a lot of experimental flags from the browser, this helps work with up and coming features as well for learning about new APIs very easily.
- deleted 11y ago
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cmatthieu 11y ago

You could use Octoblu Meshblu node in PageNode to connect Jarvis to an MQTT platform.

zyxley 11y ago
Octoblu confuses me. I can't find anything about their pricing scheme (if any), while all their professional partners listed make me think there definitely has to be one hidden in there somewhere.
- samrocksc 11y ago
  I don't believe there is any pricing scheme at all as of yet. It's a great opportunity really, check it out!