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> One election gone wrong is all it takes and all those data will be used for genocide. Again. Because first they'll come for the contractless? Why is it some
by hartpuff 10y ago
> One election gone wrong is all it takes and all those data will be used for genocide. Again.
Because first they'll come for the contractless?
Why is it some people are incapable of discussing Germany without tiresomely invoking the Nazis?
- creshal 10y ago> Because first they'll come for the contractless? No, but census data were extremely useful in organizing the holocaust. > Why is it some people are incapable of discussing Germany without tiresomely invoking the Nazis? Because in these cases that's how the political discussion in Germany in the 1980s/2000s went when the above-mentioned measures were discussed. It's simply the benchmark our governments are judged by. The Nazis are not some boogeymen that you use whenever you need a politically correct movie villain, they were the democratically elected government of a first world nation, and should be treated as such. More generally: Governments should not operate as efficiently as possible. They should be easy to keep in check by the population.
- hartpuff 10y agoThis is not about collecting census data, is it? So, sticking to what it is about, if you think your invoking of the Nazis and the Holocaust was even remotely appropriate in this thread, explain how banning anonymous SIM cards aids a future genocide.
- creshal 10y agoBanning anonymity in any form infringes on your right of expression, as it results in the panopticon effect. The BVerfG put it far more eloquently than I could: https://web.archive.org/web/20101116085553/http://zensus2011.de/fileadmin/material/pdf/gesetze/volkszaehlungsurteil_1983.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20101116085553/http://zensus2011...
- hartpuff 10y agoGreat. Now explain how banning anonymous SIM cards causes genocide.
- Lingster 10y agoWhy is it some ppl always have to complain about that?
- throwanem 10y ago> Why is it some people are incapable of discussing Germany without tiresomely invoking the Nazis? I know, right? You'd think slaughtering a few million people in half a decade or so was some kind of big deal, or something.
- JoeAltmaier 10y agoTo be honest, studies have shown that we're all capable of that. But, no harm no foul, so its all on the Germans at present.
- hartpuff 10y agoWhat happened to Native Americans was "kind of a big deal" too. So was slavery. Should people therefore bring them up every time there's a completely unrelated discussion about the USA?
- creshal 10y agoIn a "completely unrelated" discussion? No. But bringing up past German government failures in a discussion about a German government tightening up blanket surveillance of all their citizens is not "completely unrelated".
- hartpuff 10y agoLet's hear it, then, what's the relationship between banning anonymous SIM cards and genocide.