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Is this so bad? I remember back in 2012 when I visited Berlin I had to register my SIM with my Belgian ID and address too. It only took a few minutes, it's not
by Ambroos 10y ago
Is this so bad? I remember back in 2012 when I visited Berlin I had to register my SIM with my Belgian ID and address too. It only took a few minutes, it's not that much of a hassle. At the phone shop in Belgium where I work we were required to ask for a name and address too (but didn't check ID's for prepaid cards).
I doubt this will solve much terrorism-wise though. You can't expect phone shops to verify the validity of every foreign ID and address, just supplying fake data wouldn't be hard (and probably go unnoticed until it was 'too late').
- dogma1138 10y agoIf you use a non-EU passport they'll take a copy of it and ask you to register where you are staying.
- hartpuff 10y ago> Is this so bad? A better question is will this stop terrorism? If the answer is no, or unlikely, then it's just yet another inconvenience (and invasion of privacy) for lots of innocent people.
- azazqadir 10y agoI think this is a good move. Whether it can solve terrorism issue or not that does not mean the government can't even try.
- tomp 10y agoHow would this solve terrorism?
- azazqadir 10y agoI never said it will solve terrorism. I said it's a good thing that government is trying at least.
- icebraining 10y agoShouldn't the government be trying things that are expected to work? Otherwise this is just another example of the Politician's Fallacy.
- nicelynicely 10y agoHow is gathering more data on citizens a good thing? Do you want to live in a police state? How will this benefit European people? This rubbish is what leads to civil wars. You (and people like you) think you should know everything about everyone. People fought and died to protect Europeans from that. You want to go back to fighting for basic rights that were hard won with peoples blood.
- tunap 10y agoIt's a good thing for data farmers, marketeers and opressors in power. Remember who the governments are beholden to and their actions(elimination of anonymity, TPIP et al, constant surveillance) all make sense... from their perspective. *Posted from my pre-elop nokia w/ a an anon SIM.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 10y agoHow about we put you in jail? You might be a terrorist, so at least we are trying to stop terrorism! If not, why not?
- cheshire_cat 10y agoSome vendors require you to show an ID but right now you can get many SIM-Cards that can be registered online or via phone call and the data provided doesn't get verified. That's the thing they want to change.
- tempodox 10y agoIf I'm really a bad guy, I just steal a bunch of SIM cards or entire phones. This is another measure that endangers the innocent and still does nothing to stop the baddies.
- vbezhenar 10y agoFor me it's certainly bad. Terrorism isn't a real issue, it's an excuse for governments to take freedom from people. I want to be able to use phone and internet without being tracked by anyone.
- JustSomeNobody 10y agoThis is exactly spot on.
- woodman 10y ago> Is this so bad? ... I doubt this will solve much terrorism-wise though. What problem is being solved then? In the best case it is simply power tripping busywork that makes the world a little bit more annoying.