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Manning just did a data dump, damn anyone who was actually in there. From what I understand, there were active agents dossiers in the data Manning released. Th

by kefka 11y ago

Manning just did a data dump, damn anyone who was actually in there. From what I understand, there were active agents dossiers in the data Manning released. That's simply not a responsible whistleblow. Now, turning in bad programs and illegal operations that the US did, IS responsible discourse: Snowden scrubbed for potential people in his leaks. He went for policies and plans and programs, not people.

dvtv75 11y ago
Didn't the Bush Administration do that very same thing to a CIA operative It was rumored to be revenge against her husband for holding an opinion contrary to the government. I can't remember the person's name but I do remember it happening. Sauce for the goose, as they say.
deepnet 11y ago
The accusation of harm is not borne out by the facts. Its falsehood is dealt with here https://theintercept.com/a-conversation-about-privacy/ https://theintercept.com/a-conversation-about-privacy/
beeboop 11y ago
Isn't it Wikileaks that data dumped, not Manning? I guess you could say Manning is partially responsible by not giving the data to journalists instead? Not really sure.
- deepnet 11y ago
  No one was compromised, the leak was an accident. Wikileaks encrypted the data and were going through it with other journalists to redact info such as agent details. They requested the White House also vet each article before publication as did Greenwald and Poitras for Snowden - the White House never responded in either case. Some portion of the raw data leaked by accident when a Guardian Journalist inadvertently published the decryption key. Remember this was all pre-Snowden and traditional Journalists were playing catchup with the necessary security. Even so no actual harm has ever been shown. Claims to the contrary have been made as vague press releases, but no actual harm has ever been shown. source - https://theintercept.com/2016/03/30/edward-snowden-noam-chomsky-glenn-greenwald-a-conversation-on-privacy/ https://theintercept.com/2016/03/30/edward-snowden-noam-chom...

by kefka 11y ago

dvtv75 11y ago

Didn't the Bush Administration do that very same thing to a CIA operative It was rumored to be revenge against her husband for holding an opinion contrary to the government. I can't remember the person's name but I do remember it happening. Sauce for the goose, as they say.

deepnet 11y ago

The accusation of harm is not borne out by the facts. Its falsehood is dealt with here https://theintercept.com/a-conversation-about-privacy/ https://theintercept.com/a-conversation-about-privacy/

beeboop 11y ago

Isn't it Wikileaks that data dumped, not Manning? I guess you could say Manning is partially responsible by not giving the data to journalists instead? Not really sure.

deepnet 11y ago
No one was compromised, the leak was an accident. Wikileaks encrypted the data and were going through it with other journalists to redact info such as agent details. They requested the White House also vet each article before publication as did Greenwald and Poitras for Snowden - the White House never responded in either case. Some portion of the raw data leaked by accident when a Guardian Journalist inadvertently published the decryption key. Remember this was all pre-Snowden and traditional Journalists were playing catchup with the necessary security. Even so no actual harm has ever been shown. Claims to the contrary have been made as vague press releases, but no actual harm has ever been shown. source - https://theintercept.com/2016/03/30/edward-snowden-noam-chomsky-glenn-greenwald-a-conversation-on-privacy/ https://theintercept.com/2016/03/30/edward-snowden-noam-chom...