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Author of the paper here. Thanks. As for Jails and Illumos, I would be willing to bet it's people not looking, but I haven't looked, so I can't really say. I ag

by dyn 10y ago

Author of the paper here. Thanks. As for Jails and Illumos, I would be willing to bet it's people not looking, but I haven't looked, so I can't really say. I agree it's kind of a mess, but it's getting better!

ktzar 10y ago
Is there a chance a repo with a .md version or an epub can be shared? It's quite hard to read a 100+ PDF document without printing it.
- voidz 10y ago
  I'd like this too. An .epub would be nice for e-ink readers like Pocketbook, Kobo, and Kindle.
voidz 10y ago
Is it possible to get notified (via email) when this paper has been updated?
Annatar 10y ago
You would lose that bet so fast your head would be both spinning and smoking: zones have been hardened and worked on for enterprises since 2006, and in ten years have had three known vulnerabilities, the last two having already been fixed in illumos (and not exploitable without being able to be explicitly run by a user inside of a hypervisor). As Bryan Catrill has said in one of his talks: "we walked the trail if tears since our customers were very large companies; if they had a problem, we had a problem!" The illumos and smartos mailing lists are hyperactive, with bugs being fixed, and new functionality added, which even Oracle Solaris doesn't have -- just subscribe to those two mailing lists and see for yourself. I warn you in advance: be prepared to be buried under the vortex of e-mails.
- droopybuns 10y ago
  Invoking the Trail of Tears to describe development hardship is, I think, inappropriate. Wish that guy would be a bit more cautious with his metaphors.
solarengineer 10y ago
Given that you have affixed your name and have now heard of Jails and of Illumos (and SmartOS), you may want to consider amending your paper to state as such. Also, Illumos was forked off Solaris, and I'm sure that you know of Solaris' security. Looking forward to your amendment and revised paper.

by dyn 10y ago

ktzar 10y ago

Is there a chance a repo with a .md version or an epub can be shared? It's quite hard to read a 100+ PDF document without printing it.

voidz 10y ago
I'd like this too. An .epub would be nice for e-ink readers like Pocketbook, Kobo, and Kindle.

voidz 10y ago

Is it possible to get notified (via email) when this paper has been updated?

Annatar 10y ago

You would lose that bet so fast your head would be both spinning and smoking: zones have been hardened and worked on for enterprises since 2006, and in ten years have had three known vulnerabilities, the last two having already been fixed in illumos (and not exploitable without being able to be explicitly run by a user inside of a hypervisor). As Bryan Catrill has said in one of his talks: "we walked the trail if tears since our customers were very large companies; if they had a problem, we had a problem!" The illumos and smartos mailing lists are hyperactive, with bugs being fixed, and new functionality added, which even Oracle Solaris doesn't have -- just subscribe to those two mailing lists and see for yourself. I warn you in advance: be prepared to be buried under the vortex of e-mails.

droopybuns 10y ago
Invoking the Trail of Tears to describe development hardship is, I think, inappropriate. Wish that guy would be a bit more cautious with his metaphors.

solarengineer 10y ago

Given that you have affixed your name and have now heard of Jails and of Illumos (and SmartOS), you may want to consider amending your paper to state as such. Also, Illumos was forked off Solaris, and I'm sure that you know of Solaris' security. Looking forward to your amendment and revised paper.