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Despite popular belief, simple possession laws ARE upheld in Canada, but the people charged are disproportionately minorities and poor/homeless people. It's qu

by cb18 10y ago

Despite popular belief, simple possession laws ARE upheld in Canada, but the people charged are disproportionately minorities and poor/homeless people. It's quite likely that those are compound charges, meaning possession is not the only charge, i.e. they are arrested for something else, then found to be in possession. So they are charged disproportionately because they commit crimes disproportionately,[0] and some of them happen to have a bag in their pocket while doing so. [0]Aboriginal and black Canadians are grossly overrepresented in Canada’s correctional institutions http://www.academia.edu/5110524/Race_Crime_and_Criminal_Justice_in_Canada http://www.academia.edu/5110524/Race_Crime_and_Criminal_Just... This paper is itself biased against Ockham's Razor, they hit on some truth here, We cannot discount, however, the probability that increased rates of offending among certain racialized groups contributes to their overrepresentation in correctional statistics. but then spend the whole paper trying to hand wave it away.

Nitramp 10y ago
Not sure about Canada, but the whole story usually is that people with lower social class/backgrounds commit crimes more often, and that aboriginals/black people/foreigners/... etc are overrepresented in that group. Once you control for social status, there is no difference between white or non-white populations.
- striking 10y ago
  Can I get a link to something that confirms this? I'd like to be able to use this point in conversation.
- cb18 10y ago
  In the US there are groups of poor whites and poor blacks, the crime rates are not the same, they exhibit stark differences.
  - golergka 10y ago
    What if you account for rural/urban populations? Population density always has an effect on crime rate
    - cb18 10y ago
      I'm sure somebody's tried it. But the differences are so large that no amount of statistical trickery is going to be able to make them go away. http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/ http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-lib... One must also consider that it isn't the density per se, but the populations. For example, you could compare two equally dense areas but made up of different population groups. You would find a difference.
      - dd36 10y ago
        isn't infowars a crackpot site?
        cb18 10y ago
        It's not a site I frequent, I think it may have a bit of that brand image, but not like ufo bigfoot or whatever crackpot levels. That article is just a simple and clear telling of sourced facts that came up when I was searching for some facts.
        kyllo 10y ago
        What crackpot level is wearing an alien lizard mask while ranting about Obamacare?
        cb18 10y ago
        level 9
        orbitur 10y ago
        Yes.
Frozenlock 10y ago
A little "politically incorrect" related video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_Vv3Q24uQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_Vv3Q24uQ

by cb18 10y ago

Nitramp 10y ago

Not sure about Canada, but the whole story usually is that people with lower social class/backgrounds commit crimes more often, and that aboriginals/black people/foreigners/... etc are overrepresented in that group. Once you control for social status, there is no difference between white or non-white populations.

striking 10y ago
Can I get a link to something that confirms this? I'd like to be able to use this point in conversation.
cb18 10y ago
In the US there are groups of poor whites and poor blacks, the crime rates are not the same, they exhibit stark differences.
- golergka 10y ago
  What if you account for rural/urban populations? Population density always has an effect on crime rate
  - cb18 10y ago
    I'm sure somebody's tried it. But the differences are so large that no amount of statistical trickery is going to be able to make them go away. http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-liberal-media-darent-talk-about/ http://www.infowars.com/black-crime-facts-that-the-white-lib... One must also consider that it isn't the density per se, but the populations. For example, you could compare two equally dense areas but made up of different population groups. You would find a difference.
    - dd36 10y ago
      isn't infowars a crackpot site?
      - cb18 10y ago
        It's not a site I frequent, I think it may have a bit of that brand image, but not like ufo bigfoot or whatever crackpot levels. That article is just a simple and clear telling of sourced facts that came up when I was searching for some facts.
        kyllo 10y ago
        What crackpot level is wearing an alien lizard mask while ranting about Obamacare?
        cb18 10y ago
        level 9
      - orbitur 10y ago
        Yes.

Frozenlock 10y ago

A little "politically incorrect" related video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_Vv3Q24uQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_Vv3Q24uQ