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If that was true, Iceland's neighbors Norway and Sweden would have similar rates, but they're actually significantly lower and closer to countries like the USA.
by drzaiusapelord 11y ago
If that was true, Iceland's neighbors Norway and Sweden would have similar rates, but they're actually significantly lower and closer to countries like the USA. Iceland also has the highest percentage of people on anti-depressants in Europe. Nearly twice the rate of the EU average to be exact!
I think a lot of these "Isn't Iceland wonderful" articles are poorly sourced pop-science junk designed to get ad impressions. Iceland has a lot of problems and is a much more complex country than many give it credit for. Its not a bunch of elf worshippers living in the forest. They're a complex modern people with all the problems modernity brings. I also believe a lot of people with leftist political beliefs don't want to discuss the downsides of the Scandinavian welfare state as these criticism are, of course, critical of their own personal politics. So narratives that are critical of these politics don't get upvoted on sites like HN and Reddit which are largely left-leaning.
Its also worth mentioning that national happiness is tied very closely with income inequality, not pools. Even then, you can have a high level of general happiness and still have a relatively high suicide rate for reasons not fully understood, but I imagine self reporting of how 'happy' you are isn't granular enough to really tell us very much.
There's an ugly "noble savage" narrative to Icelandic people that I personally find offensive. I wish the media would stop pushing that narrative but I can understand that it gets ad impressions the same way Native American "noble savage" stories were so popular a hundred years ago in the USA. The reality is that both are reductionist and inaccurate and gloss over the very significant negative aspects of both their cultures.
Cites:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_r...
http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/9789264183896-en/03/11/index.html;jsessionid=3r1a233qn9oih.x-oecd-live-02?contentType=&itemId=/content/chapter/9789264183896-38-en&containerItemId=%2Fcontent%2Fchapter%2F9789264183896-38-en&accessItemIds=/content/book/9789264183896-en&mimeType=text/html%29?&_csp_=45f4df11dc99cd2019aa9aa30865f74f http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/9789264183896-en/03/11/in...
http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/25/why-the-happiest-states-have-the-highest-suicide-rates/ http://healthland.time.com/2011/04/25/why-the-happiest-state...
- ajmurmann 11y agoCan people who are down voting this please explain edgy? I find the comparison to neighboring counties very ingesting and would like to hear why people disagree.
- viraptor 11y ago> If that was true, Iceland's neighbors Norway and Sweden would have similar rates Keep in mind that their borders stretch much further south. Also the population distribution is biased towards the south. Sure, saying that national happiness comes from pools is silly. But it doesn't change that their pools are amazing in many ways. After living in northern IS for a while, that's one thing I really miss.