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Yup, and they've (as far as I've heard -- could be wrong) threatened to blacklist sellers who move to upstarts like Jet or even if they sell more prominently on

by eganist 11y ago

Yup, and they've (as far as I've heard -- could be wrong) threatened to blacklist sellers who move to upstarts like Jet or even if they sell more prominently on eBay. Perhaps I don't know the definition of anticompetitive, but I feel like this fits the bill.

ikeboy 11y ago
I haven't heard that. They have a rule that you can't sell items elsewhere for less than you're selling them on Amazon for, but otherwise there's no restrictions.
- eganist 11y ago
  The Jet threat came to a friend of mine, but I think you're right regarding selling items for less. There are a few mitigations for that specific restriction which have allowed some sellers to continue selling on multiple channels, but though some are likely obvious, I'm pretty sure I signed my right away to talk about said mitigations in public. If not, I'll reply back with more. Will have to check.
- Someone1234 11y ago
  > They have a rule that you can't sell items elsewhere That's a pretty anti-competitive rule if true. Essentially it means you cannot sell on Jet.com because of how Jet.com's pricing is calculacted (any product COULD be cheaper on there if you stack enough of them).
  - ikeboy 11y ago
    You can limit the quantity on Jet, and you can put the price high enough that even with stacking it comes at to parity with Amazon. Or you could have similar stacking discounts by creating multipacks on Amazon. See https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=1161240 https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=... near the end.
- bitL 11y ago
  Form a Nevada-based LLC specifically for selling on Jet for $500; ignore Amazon.
  - ikeboy 11y ago
    Sure, as long as they aren't the same name, and you have a way to ship those orders separately from Amazon ones. But then don't complain if Amazon finds out and bans you.
    - bitL 11y ago
      Usual stuff when dealing with Amazon - never use the same browser/IP address/geographical location with two different accounts. Use different VPNs for different accounts/companies. Doable. Only the paranoid survive.
    - gherkin0 11y ago
      > and you have a way to ship those orders separately from Amazon ones What do you mean by this? How likely would it be for a seller to even be in a position to ship orders from multiple websites in the same box? And how would Amazon find out without buying things on competitor websites and checking return addresses?
      - ikeboy 11y ago
        >How likely would it be for a seller to even be in a position to ship orders from multiple websites in the same box? And how would Amazon find out without buying things on competitor websites and checking return addresses? Well firstly if you do something stupid like FBA multi-channel fulfilment, AZ may catch on. I don't mean shipping different orders together, I mean shipping from the same warehouse. If the value is significant, I wouldn't put it past amazon to place a test order. Probably unlikely, but when you're breaking your business agreements, do it properly. I have heard horror stories of people doing well selling some product buying from the manufacturer, and Amazon went to the manufacturer and bought on condition they don't sell the product to anyone else.

by eganist 11y ago

ikeboy 11y ago

I haven't heard that. They have a rule that you can't sell items elsewhere for less than you're selling them on Amazon for, but otherwise there's no restrictions.

eganist 11y ago
The Jet threat came to a friend of mine, but I think you're right regarding selling items for less. There are a few mitigations for that specific restriction which have allowed some sellers to continue selling on multiple channels, but though some are likely obvious, I'm pretty sure I signed my right away to talk about said mitigations in public. If not, I'll reply back with more. Will have to check.
Someone1234 11y ago
> They have a rule that you can't sell items elsewhere That's a pretty anti-competitive rule if true. Essentially it means you cannot sell on Jet.com because of how Jet.com's pricing is calculacted (any product COULD be cheaper on there if you stack enough of them).
- ikeboy 11y ago
  You can limit the quantity on Jet, and you can put the price high enough that even with stacking it comes at to parity with Amazon. Or you could have similar stacking discounts by creating multipacks on Amazon. See https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=1161240 https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=... near the end.
bitL 11y ago
Form a Nevada-based LLC specifically for selling on Jet for $500; ignore Amazon.
- ikeboy 11y ago
  Sure, as long as they aren't the same name, and you have a way to ship those orders separately from Amazon ones. But then don't complain if Amazon finds out and bans you.
  - bitL 11y ago
    Usual stuff when dealing with Amazon - never use the same browser/IP address/geographical location with two different accounts. Use different VPNs for different accounts/companies. Doable. Only the paranoid survive.
  - gherkin0 11y ago
    > and you have a way to ship those orders separately from Amazon ones What do you mean by this? How likely would it be for a seller to even be in a position to ship orders from multiple websites in the same box? And how would Amazon find out without buying things on competitor websites and checking return addresses?
    - ikeboy 11y ago
      >How likely would it be for a seller to even be in a position to ship orders from multiple websites in the same box? And how would Amazon find out without buying things on competitor websites and checking return addresses? Well firstly if you do something stupid like FBA multi-channel fulfilment, AZ may catch on. I don't mean shipping different orders together, I mean shipping from the same warehouse. If the value is significant, I wouldn't put it past amazon to place a test order. Probably unlikely, but when you're breaking your business agreements, do it properly. I have heard horror stories of people doing well selling some product buying from the manufacturer, and Amazon went to the manufacturer and bought on condition they don't sell the product to anyone else.