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"[A former principal] said severe violence and military-style discipline were the only ways to run a place filled with thousands of unruly people who didn't wan
by HillRat 11y ago
"[A former principal] said severe violence and military-style discipline were the only ways to run a place filled with thousands of unruly people who didn't want to be there."
And the lessons of Nuremberg go unheeded again. Dear God, I hope there's standing for an ACTA claim, since it's damned certain ROK isn't going to try and make this inhumanity right again.
- fabulist 11y agoWhile I share your hope that there will be some service of justice, nothing could make that right.
- vinay427 11y agoTo be fair, GP said "try and make this inhumanity right again" which sounds very reasonable.
- HillRat 11y agoYeah, I deliberated on that, knowing that the victims who survived can never be made whole, let alone those who died beneath a shroud of official silence. I suppose I should have said "the ROK will never bring the guilty to justice," though a tort claim isn't real justice either.
- hasenj 11y ago> the lessons of Nuremberg Mind elaborating on that to people (like me) not deeply familiar with European history?
- reitanqild 11y agoMy takeaway from learning about Nürnberg was that everyone is responsible for their own actions and you are guilty even if you "just"followed orders.
- 13of40 11y agoWhat if you're under duress, which everyone in the military basically is at all times? (Nowadays, you typically have the right to refuse an order if you know it's illegal, but I doubt that was the case in the SS in 1944.)
- onion2k 11y agoWhen it comes to committing a crime against humanity such as the mass murder of civilians, you're expected to refuse the order even if it means being killed for doing so. Self-preservation is not a reasonable excuse for committing a war crime, and it never has been.
- chrischen 11y agoWhat about all the civilians who no doubt contributed economically and indirectly to the Nazi regime simply by not opposing or fighting them?
- onion2k 11y agoThey were punished quite severely by Germany's reparations at the end of the war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reparations_for_World_War_II https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_reparations_for_World...
- startling 11y agoThe Nuremberg Trials[1] / "Nuremberg Defence"[2]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders