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The 97% repeated lie has been debunked multiple times http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/02/debunking_the_97_consensus_on_global_warming.html http://www.

by skrowl 11y ago

The 97% repeated lie has been debunked multiple times http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/02/debunking_the_97_consensus_on_global_warming.html http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/02/debunking_the_97...

arm85 11y ago
Has it? I haven't heard of americanthinker.com before, but do you have a reputable source for that claim, such as an independant study published in an independent journal that has been peer reviewed? Such as [0]. Because other legitimate sources such as Nasa actually state the 97% figure too[1]. [0] http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024/meta;jsessionid=2F4DC4132703389A94273537CD6BFD95.ip-10-40-2-73 http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/0240... [1] http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
SamPhillips 11y ago
Here are a couple who agree: United Nations IPCC http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm Exxon Mobile http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/current-issues/climate-policy/climate-perspectives/engagement-to-address-climate-change http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/current-issues/climate-po... NASA http://climate.nasa.gov/ http://climate.nasa.gov/ American Meteorological Society https://www.ametsoc.org/ams/index.cfm/about-ams/ams-statements/statements-of-the-ams-in-force/climate-change/ https://www.ametsoc.org/ams/index.cfm/about-ams/ams-statemen... NOAA http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html EPA https://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/ https://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/ National Center for Atmospheric Research http://eo.ucar.edu/basics/cc_1.html http://eo.ucar.edu/basics/cc_1.html Royal Society of the United Kingdom https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-evidence-causes/ https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-evid... Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society http://www.cmos.ca/site/ps_pos_statements?a=7 http://www.cmos.ca/site/ps_pos_statements?a=7 Science Council of Japan, Russian Academy of Science, Brazilian Academy of Sciences, Royal Society of Canada, Chinese Academy of Sciences, French Academy of Sciences, German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina, Indian National Science Academy, Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy), Royal Society (UK) (PDF File) http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf Maybe the consensus number is only 95%, or 93%, but it's pretty clear that there is broad scientific agreement. Even that 'debunking' only claims that the papers do not explicitly take a position, while virtually every major scientific body who have taken a position say that human-caused climate change is a major issue. There is pretty undeniable evidence now that the world is getting warmer (example: http://www.crystalcruises.com/OfferDetail.aspx?OG=220 http://www.crystalcruises.com/OfferDetail.aspx?OG=220). So the shift in thinking should be away from "is there anyone who doesn't think this is happening" to "who has the best ideas for how to limit this".

by skrowl 11y ago

arm85 11y ago

Has it? I haven't heard of americanthinker.com before, but do you have a reputable source for that claim, such as an independant study published in an independent journal that has been peer reviewed? Such as [0]. Because other legitimate sources such as Nasa actually state the 97% figure too[1]. [0] http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024/meta;jsessionid=2F4DC4132703389A94273537CD6BFD95.ip-10-40-2-73 http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/0240... [1] http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

SamPhillips 11y ago

Here are a couple who agree: United Nations IPCC http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm http://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm Exxon Mobile http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/current-issues/climate-policy/climate-perspectives/engagement-to-address-climate-change http://corporate.exxonmobil.com/en/current-issues/climate-po... NASA http://climate.nasa.gov/ http://climate.nasa.gov/ American Meteorological Society https://www.ametsoc.org/ams/index.cfm/about-ams/ams-statements/statements-of-the-ams-in-force/climate-change/ https://www.ametsoc.org/ams/index.cfm/about-ams/ams-statemen... NOAA http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html EPA https://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/ https://www3.epa.gov/climatechange/ National Center for Atmospheric Research http://eo.ucar.edu/basics/cc_1.html http://eo.ucar.edu/basics/cc_1.html Royal Society of the United Kingdom https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-evidence-causes/ https://royalsociety.org/topics-policy/projects/climate-evid... Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society http://www.cmos.ca/site/ps_pos_statements?a=7 http://www.cmos.ca/site/ps_pos_statements?a=7 Science Council of Japan, Russian Academy of Science, Brazilian Academy of Sciences, Royal Society of Canada, Chinese Academy of Sciences, French Academy of Sciences, German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina, Indian National Science Academy, Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy), Royal Society (UK) (PDF File) http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf http://nationalacademies.org/onpi/06072005.pdf Maybe the consensus number is only 95%, or 93%, but it's pretty clear that there is broad scientific agreement. Even that 'debunking' only claims that the papers do not explicitly take a position, while virtually every major scientific body who have taken a position say that human-caused climate change is a major issue. There is pretty undeniable evidence now that the world is getting warmer (example: http://www.crystalcruises.com/OfferDetail.aspx?OG=220 http://www.crystalcruises.com/OfferDetail.aspx?OG=220). So the shift in thinking should be away from "is there anyone who doesn't think this is happening" to "who has the best ideas for how to limit this".