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I've decided to become the guy that on every HN climate change post promotes the only technology that can restore the climate we had. There is a way to get us

I've decided to become the guy that on every HN climate change post promotes the only technology that can restore the climate we had. There is a way to get us down from 408ppm back to a safe level like 350ppm, and that is Bio Energy with carbon capture and storage: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bio-energy_with_carbon_capture_and_storage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bio-energy_with_carbon_capture...

zxcvvcxz 11y ago
Tell that to up-and-coming countries like China. Go ahead, see if they want to slow their economic growth for the "environment", let alone the breathing air of their people. And after you tell them off, take a trip to Africa (e.g. Nigeria) as well. By all means, we should work to make it an economical alternative. I suggest that a higher proportion of GDP in first-world countries go towards this type of basic research. But until then, it's not going to happen.
- willholloway 11y ago
  I have a filter that ignores pessimism. Here's why you are wrong. China is adopting solar on a massive scale. In fact it's the Chinese solar industry that broke the grid parity barrier. And yes, their people are and will demand cleaner air. And most importantly, new solar is cheaper than new coal plants, even in India. And as far as countries like Nigeria, I propose that the developed world begins to enact sanctions against reckless polluters to incentivize social nation state behavior. I think that we will find, just as transnational oil companies have found, that the governments of countries like Nigeria are easily swayed by outside money. And this idea that controlling carbon will slow economic growth is ludicrous. What do you think having NYC and Miami flooded will do to growth? What about 100 million refugees from Bangladesh. Look at the problem of Syrian refugees for Europe. We did one thing right, and we got solar pv cheap just in the nick of time.
Detect 10y ago
Seems unlikely there will be a silver bullet solution, especially one that's considered future technology. We have many low-tech solutions available today like soil carbon sequestration through better land management that can be part of a wide array of solutions.

zxcvvcxz 11y ago

Tell that to up-and-coming countries like China. Go ahead, see if they want to slow their economic growth for the "environment", let alone the breathing air of their people. And after you tell them off, take a trip to Africa (e.g. Nigeria) as well. By all means, we should work to make it an economical alternative. I suggest that a higher proportion of GDP in first-world countries go towards this type of basic research. But until then, it's not going to happen.

willholloway 11y ago
I have a filter that ignores pessimism. Here's why you are wrong. China is adopting solar on a massive scale. In fact it's the Chinese solar industry that broke the grid parity barrier. And yes, their people are and will demand cleaner air. And most importantly, new solar is cheaper than new coal plants, even in India. And as far as countries like Nigeria, I propose that the developed world begins to enact sanctions against reckless polluters to incentivize social nation state behavior. I think that we will find, just as transnational oil companies have found, that the governments of countries like Nigeria are easily swayed by outside money. And this idea that controlling carbon will slow economic growth is ludicrous. What do you think having NYC and Miami flooded will do to growth? What about 100 million refugees from Bangladesh. Look at the problem of Syrian refugees for Europe. We did one thing right, and we got solar pv cheap just in the nick of time.

Detect 10y ago

Seems unlikely there will be a silver bullet solution, especially one that's considered future technology. We have many low-tech solutions available today like soil carbon sequestration through better land management that can be part of a wide array of solutions.