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Their actions are anticompetitive towards developers and app publishers. These are individuals and companies, both valid entities in an antitrust complaint.

rimantas 10y ago
You have a lot of learning to do. Figuring out why antitrust does not apply would be a good first step.
DerekL 10y ago
Starting with the Nintendo Entertainment System, most video game consoles have included lock-out technology to prevent the console from running unlicensed software. Has any console manufacturer been stopped from doing this by antitrust law? How is this different from the iPhone?
- cloudjacker 10y ago
  In a lot of ways, but thats the thing with legal analogies, they fail for reasons you didn't even consider. Its not "the lock-out technology" we are even debating.
coldtea 10y ago
>Their actions are anticompetitive towards developers and app publishers. On their own marketplace. That they created themselves and can control as they like, and which is not even a monopoly (though that's also legal to be). Not on the overall market. That's like saying a supermarket can't decide what they sell or not, and whether they'll promote a particular product or not.
- cloudjacker 10y ago
  Correct, and all of the app developers and users are agreeing to the contract. This has absolutely zero bearing on the establishment upholding the conditions of those contracts. Especially with said contract's arbitrary, vague and opaque, enforcement. You heard it hear first. App Stores are an antitrust violation waiting to happen.
  - coldtea 10y ago
    That's not what antitrust laws are about. See here: https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Microsoft-punished-for-violating-antitrust-laws-while-Apple-which-is-even-worse-now-is-not-punished https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Microsoft-punished-for-violati...
    - cloudjacker 10y ago
      They engage in anticompetitive practices, the antitrust commissions will be the ones to levy sanctions whether they are in line with case law or set their own precedent.
      - coldtea 10y ago
        I don't think antitrust means what you think it means...
st3v3r 10y ago
No, they aren't.

rimantas 10y ago

You have a lot of learning to do. Figuring out why antitrust does not apply would be a good first step.

DerekL 10y ago

Starting with the Nintendo Entertainment System, most video game consoles have included lock-out technology to prevent the console from running unlicensed software. Has any console manufacturer been stopped from doing this by antitrust law? How is this different from the iPhone?

cloudjacker 10y ago
In a lot of ways, but thats the thing with legal analogies, they fail for reasons you didn't even consider. Its not "the lock-out technology" we are even debating.

coldtea 10y ago

>Their actions are anticompetitive towards developers and app publishers. On their own marketplace. That they created themselves and can control as they like, and which is not even a monopoly (though that's also legal to be). Not on the overall market. That's like saying a supermarket can't decide what they sell or not, and whether they'll promote a particular product or not.

cloudjacker 10y ago
Correct, and all of the app developers and users are agreeing to the contract. This has absolutely zero bearing on the establishment upholding the conditions of those contracts. Especially with said contract's arbitrary, vague and opaque, enforcement. You heard it hear first. App Stores are an antitrust violation waiting to happen.
- coldtea 10y ago
  That's not what antitrust laws are about. See here: https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Microsoft-punished-for-violating-antitrust-laws-while-Apple-which-is-even-worse-now-is-not-punished https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Microsoft-punished-for-violati...
  - cloudjacker 10y ago
    They engage in anticompetitive practices, the antitrust commissions will be the ones to levy sanctions whether they are in line with case law or set their own precedent.
    - coldtea 10y ago
      I don't think antitrust means what you think it means...

st3v3r 10y ago

No, they aren't.