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> Apps larger than 100MB in size will not download over cellular networks (this is automatically prohibited by the App Store) I have a 10GB data plan, why is t

> Apps larger than 100MB in size will not download over cellular networks (this is automatically prohibited by the App Store) I have a 10GB data plan, why is this still a thing?! At least give me an option to turn it off buried deep in the settings somewhere. I wish we had something like `defaults` on iOS.

mschuster91 11y ago
> I have a 10GB data plan, why is this still a thing?! Where are you living and holy fuck how much are you paying? Not everyone lives in Finland, unfortunately. It's a small number of countries where 100MB won't eat up like half your monthly data allowance and it's good that Apple prevents morons with unneccessarily huge apps (FACEBOOK!!!) to screw their customers.
- gmac 11y ago
  I also have a 10GB/month data plan, on Vodafone UK. It costs GBP £46 (USD $65) per month over 24 months, including a 20% discount [1]. It came with a 'free' 128GB iPhone 6, 2 years of Spotify and 6 months of Netflix. [1] https://advantage.vodafone.co.uk/ https://advantage.vodafone.co.uk/
- philippoi 11y ago
  I have 50GB from Telia in Denmark and pay roughly $50, but that includes Spotify and HBO Nordic subscriptions in the bundle. Most everything else in Denmark is pretty expensive though.
- iagooar 10y ago
  In Switzerland, you get unlimited LTE 150mbit/s with no limit & no speed reduction for CHF59 (~ USD60) per month. Just to put it in context, 60 francs in Switzerland is the price of a dinner in a good (but not excellent) restaurant for one single person.
- mikestew 10y ago
  Not everyone lives in Finland, unfortunately. Finland? T-Mo in the U. S. (you know, the country that is sooo much worse than Europe when it comes to mobile?), two lines with combined 14Gb data, $120/month. Not quite 10Gb per phone, but close enough for our use. We had the unlimited data, but we didn't use enough to justify the extra $30/month.
  - skrause 10y ago
    Here in Germany it's more common to have 1 GB for $10 per month. So more or less the same price you pay per GB, but not many people can justify paying >$100 per month for a mobile plan. I also have to manage with 1 GB data per month, simply because I don't have to pay more than maybe $10-15 per month.
    - mikestew 10y ago
      Keeping in mind that the $120 we pay includes unlimited text and voice calls. We don't need the 14Gb, as we rarely go over 1Gb, but the difference is minimal enough that I pay the difference from a cheaper plan "just in case".
- dijit 10y ago
  Everyone replying to you is echoing the "got mine, fuck everyone else" attitude, personally I'd also like it if my phone didn't /automatically/ download large things which will chew my cap, and rather wait until I'm near wifi. to me, that's good UX, it's unnecessary to automatically download anything over 100mb right now, you can always manually force it- I guess this thread is in "hate apple" mode though.
  - kalleboo 10y ago
    But you can't manually force it. If you could, I'd agree it's good UX. Now it's just limiting. It gets especially ridiculous in the Podcasts app, where it won't let you download a 100 GB podcast, but will happily let you stream the whole thing...
    - Someone 10y ago
      Are there 100 GB podcasts? At a generous 1 MB a second, that would be a podcast of over a day.
      - kalleboo 10y ago
        Oops, I meant 100 MB. Too late to edit now...
- dijit 10y ago
  Everyone replying to you is echoing the "got mine, fuck everyone else" attitude, personally I'd also like it if my phone didn't /automatically/ download large things which will chew my cap, and rather wait until I'm near wifi. to me, that's good UX, it's unnecessary to automatically download anything over 100mb right now, you can always manually force it- I guess this thread is in "hate apple" mode though.
- rdl 10y ago
  I have a Verizon XXL plan with some bonus GB: 26 GB/mo with 3 phones, 2 tablets, 2 mifi, for ~$200/mo. This isn't that uncommon.
cloudjacker 11y ago
Apple manages their perception by attempting to make poor user experiences impossible. This means people never see the edge cases and perceive them as 'faster' or more reliable. Solely because they prevented the user from downloading a large file over a spotty cellular connection.
- unfamiliar 11y ago
  I consider not being able to download a podcast or an app I need because of an arbitrary restriction a pretty bad user experience.
  - cloudjacker 11y ago
    That's interesting, so within apps (like a Podcast app), you can download things that are greater than 100mb. I can see how if you try to download podcasts straight from the store, you might find that limiting, but there are plenty of work arounds that you get used to. Gotta download large games over wifi though!
coldtea 11y ago
Because idiots without a 10GB data plan, or idiots WITH a 10GB data plan on data roaming will go and download apps and then cry about the charges.
- izacus 10y ago
  "Idiots"?
  - coldtea 10y ago
    "People mentally challenged by otherwise pretty well known, and not-really-techie-or-subtle things like roaming and overage data charges that download multi-100MB mobile apps on their feebly data plans" if you prefer.
- dijit 10y ago
  Can't get a 10G mobile data plan in Sweden. I had to get a 2G contract and a data only sim (which is LTE/data only and meant for a tablet) to boost it to 22G I pay 2 contracts for this because there's no uncapped data plan, the highest I could buy is 5G. (which I certainly exhaust in a month with my iphone). I'm not too happy about you calling my countrymen idiots to be honest, not when there's no choice. I highly doubt that Sweden is alone with this.
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >I'm not too happy about you calling my countrymen idiots to be honest, not when there's no choice. How in God's name did the discussion get to be about your countrymen? I haven't even mentioned them or made any hint that this is about some specific country. If anything, I was mostly talking with US examples on mind. Heck, what I said isn't even targeted at people with 10GB plans, much less to people from a specific country... It's not having or not having a 10GB data plan that I described as idiotic -- it's going over one's plan by doing something as downloading gigs of mobile apps, and then complaining about the extra charges.
  - eknkc 10y ago
    I think OP was categorising those who will download 100mb+ apps without 10GB mobile plan without realising what they do as idiots. Not everyone with low caps. BTW, wat? I'm in Turkey with a 20GB mobile data plan. It's not cheap (38 EUR/month for just data) but it's an option. I guess they sell higher if you want too. How did you guys ended up with that mess in the middle of Europe?

mschuster91 11y ago

> I have a 10GB data plan, why is this still a thing?! Where are you living and holy fuck how much are you paying? Not everyone lives in Finland, unfortunately. It's a small number of countries where 100MB won't eat up like half your monthly data allowance and it's good that Apple prevents morons with unneccessarily huge apps (FACEBOOK!!!) to screw their customers.

gmac 11y ago
I also have a 10GB/month data plan, on Vodafone UK. It costs GBP £46 (USD $65) per month over 24 months, including a 20% discount [1]. It came with a 'free' 128GB iPhone 6, 2 years of Spotify and 6 months of Netflix. [1] https://advantage.vodafone.co.uk/ https://advantage.vodafone.co.uk/
philippoi 11y ago
I have 50GB from Telia in Denmark and pay roughly $50, but that includes Spotify and HBO Nordic subscriptions in the bundle. Most everything else in Denmark is pretty expensive though.
iagooar 10y ago
In Switzerland, you get unlimited LTE 150mbit/s with no limit & no speed reduction for CHF59 (~ USD60) per month. Just to put it in context, 60 francs in Switzerland is the price of a dinner in a good (but not excellent) restaurant for one single person.
mikestew 10y ago
Not everyone lives in Finland, unfortunately. Finland? T-Mo in the U. S. (you know, the country that is sooo much worse than Europe when it comes to mobile?), two lines with combined 14Gb data, $120/month. Not quite 10Gb per phone, but close enough for our use. We had the unlimited data, but we didn't use enough to justify the extra $30/month.
- skrause 10y ago
  Here in Germany it's more common to have 1 GB for $10 per month. So more or less the same price you pay per GB, but not many people can justify paying >$100 per month for a mobile plan. I also have to manage with 1 GB data per month, simply because I don't have to pay more than maybe $10-15 per month.
  - mikestew 10y ago
    Keeping in mind that the $120 we pay includes unlimited text and voice calls. We don't need the 14Gb, as we rarely go over 1Gb, but the difference is minimal enough that I pay the difference from a cheaper plan "just in case".
dijit 10y ago
Everyone replying to you is echoing the "got mine, fuck everyone else" attitude, personally I'd also like it if my phone didn't /automatically/ download large things which will chew my cap, and rather wait until I'm near wifi. to me, that's good UX, it's unnecessary to automatically download anything over 100mb right now, you can always manually force it- I guess this thread is in "hate apple" mode though.
- kalleboo 10y ago
  But you can't manually force it. If you could, I'd agree it's good UX. Now it's just limiting. It gets especially ridiculous in the Podcasts app, where it won't let you download a 100 GB podcast, but will happily let you stream the whole thing...
  - Someone 10y ago
    Are there 100 GB podcasts? At a generous 1 MB a second, that would be a podcast of over a day.
    - kalleboo 10y ago
      Oops, I meant 100 MB. Too late to edit now...
dijit 10y ago
Everyone replying to you is echoing the "got mine, fuck everyone else" attitude, personally I'd also like it if my phone didn't /automatically/ download large things which will chew my cap, and rather wait until I'm near wifi. to me, that's good UX, it's unnecessary to automatically download anything over 100mb right now, you can always manually force it- I guess this thread is in "hate apple" mode though.
rdl 10y ago
I have a Verizon XXL plan with some bonus GB: 26 GB/mo with 3 phones, 2 tablets, 2 mifi, for ~$200/mo. This isn't that uncommon.

cloudjacker 11y ago

Apple manages their perception by attempting to make poor user experiences impossible. This means people never see the edge cases and perceive them as 'faster' or more reliable. Solely because they prevented the user from downloading a large file over a spotty cellular connection.

unfamiliar 11y ago
I consider not being able to download a podcast or an app I need because of an arbitrary restriction a pretty bad user experience.
- cloudjacker 11y ago
  That's interesting, so within apps (like a Podcast app), you can download things that are greater than 100mb. I can see how if you try to download podcasts straight from the store, you might find that limiting, but there are plenty of work arounds that you get used to. Gotta download large games over wifi though!

coldtea 11y ago

Because idiots without a 10GB data plan, or idiots WITH a 10GB data plan on data roaming will go and download apps and then cry about the charges.

izacus 10y ago
"Idiots"?
- coldtea 10y ago
  "People mentally challenged by otherwise pretty well known, and not-really-techie-or-subtle things like roaming and overage data charges that download multi-100MB mobile apps on their feebly data plans" if you prefer.
dijit 10y ago
Can't get a 10G mobile data plan in Sweden. I had to get a 2G contract and a data only sim (which is LTE/data only and meant for a tablet) to boost it to 22G I pay 2 contracts for this because there's no uncapped data plan, the highest I could buy is 5G. (which I certainly exhaust in a month with my iphone). I'm not too happy about you calling my countrymen idiots to be honest, not when there's no choice. I highly doubt that Sweden is alone with this.
- coldtea 10y ago
  >I'm not too happy about you calling my countrymen idiots to be honest, not when there's no choice. How in God's name did the discussion get to be about your countrymen? I haven't even mentioned them or made any hint that this is about some specific country. If anything, I was mostly talking with US examples on mind. Heck, what I said isn't even targeted at people with 10GB plans, much less to people from a specific country... It's not having or not having a 10GB data plan that I described as idiotic -- it's going over one's plan by doing something as downloading gigs of mobile apps, and then complaining about the extra charges.
- eknkc 10y ago
  I think OP was categorising those who will download 100mb+ apps without 10GB mobile plan without realising what they do as idiots. Not everyone with low caps. BTW, wat? I'm in Turkey with a 20GB mobile data plan. It's not cheap (38 EUR/month for just data) but it's an option. I guess they sell higher if you want too. How did you guys ended up with that mess in the middle of Europe?