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Javascript is a great language. Transpiling another language to run on the browser (looking at you, zombie GWT!) will NOT make CSS and event handling any less

Javascript is a great language. Transpiling another language to run on the browser (looking at you, zombie GWT!) will NOT make CSS and event handling any less complex.

geggam 11y ago
not worried about complex... i miss being able to surf the internet on smaller systems than it takes to run entire clouds stacks on
- Roboprog 11y ago
  Ah. Gotcha. E.g. - a newsletter doesn't need to be an "app".
wtbob 11y ago
> Javascript is a great language. I think you must be suffering a misunderstanding about the meaning of one of those words. JavaScript is a hideous, misdesigned, sad and ultimately embarrassing language. It's hideous: curly brackets and hieroglyphics galore. It's misdesigned: insane type conversions & implicit declaration — and don't even get me started about ===! It's sad: Eich originally wanted to build a Scheme; while I'm no fan of Scheme (at all: frankly, I hate it), that would have been a noble and good project; instead, we're left with a pathetic might-have-been perversion of good intentions. It's an embarrassing indictment of our entire industry that JavaScript is successful. It has one virtue: it exists everywhere.
- Roboprog 11y ago
  I don't know what your "language of choice" is, but here in the Sacramento area, the selection of languages which there are jobs available to be worked is somewhat limited. Yes, ES/JS suffers from its "look like Javascript/C++/C" * heritage, courtesy of the usual suspects from a marketing group. But get past the cosmetics, and you can do some nice FP things with ES/JS. * I'm in the camp that Modula / Delphi were MUCH better language(s) than C. But few groups were hiring for those skills back in the day - C and its spawn won out, sadly. At least C++ is pretty much dead outside of the video game industry. Good riddance.

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Javascript is a great language. Transpiling another language to run on the browser (looking at you, zombie GWT!) will NOT make CSS and event handling any less

by Roboprog 11y ago

Javascript is a great language. Transpiling another language to run on the browser (looking at you, zombie GWT!) will NOT make CSS and event handling any less complex.

geggam 11y ago
not worried about complex... i miss being able to surf the internet on smaller systems than it takes to run entire clouds stacks on
- Roboprog 11y ago
  Ah. Gotcha. E.g. - a newsletter doesn't need to be an "app".
wtbob 11y ago
> Javascript is a great language. I think you must be suffering a misunderstanding about the meaning of one of those words. JavaScript is a hideous, misdesigned, sad and ultimately embarrassing language. It's hideous: curly brackets and hieroglyphics galore. It's misdesigned: insane type conversions & implicit declaration — and don't even get me started about ===! It's sad: Eich originally wanted to build a Scheme; while I'm no fan of Scheme (at all: frankly, I hate it), that would have been a noble and good project; instead, we're left with a pathetic might-have-been perversion of good intentions. It's an embarrassing indictment of our entire industry that JavaScript is successful. It has one virtue: it exists everywhere.
- Roboprog 11y ago
  I don't know what your "language of choice" is, but here in the Sacramento area, the selection of languages which there are jobs available to be worked is somewhat limited. Yes, ES/JS suffers from its "look like Javascript/C++/C" * heritage, courtesy of the usual suspects from a marketing group. But get past the cosmetics, and you can do some nice FP things with ES/JS. * I'm in the camp that Modula / Delphi were MUCH better language(s) than C. But few groups were hiring for those skills back in the day - C and its spawn won out, sadly. At least C++ is pretty much dead outside of the video game industry. Good riddance.