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Well except there's a video of someone's bike skidding around on its own on the site. So the motors do exist in the sport...

by anjc 11y ago

davidw 11y ago
Video is old and has been debunked.
- freehunter 11y ago
  The only debunking I've seen is putting a spinning tire down in optimal conditions, which of course has it spinning like it did in the video. The video has the bike bouncing off the ground several times and coming to a complete stop on the ground in the rider's hands, and then him letting go and it spinning away. At that point, the tire should have stopped all of it's rotational inertia.
  - davidw 11y ago
    It's not like they're going slow in those races - the wheel probably had a lot of momentum. In any event, reposting an old video, with a couple of grainy shots of unidentified riders whose bikes were not subsequently checked counts more as "casting aspersions" rather than "proof" in my book. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if someone somewhere was cheating, but I've come to dislike these kinds of hit pieces.
    - freehunter 11y ago
      Well obviously no one is being disqualified on this video alone. The idea is to draw attention to what could be a real issue. But calling it debunked because of another video that is just as dubious seems a little like hand-waving. What's happening is that people are trying to get the officials to look into the idea that there may be tiny hidden motors in some bikes. And what you're doing seems like you're trying to avoid that from happening.
      - davidw 11y ago
        People have been talking about this issue for a while in the cycling community. That's why they're doing tests. I'm more than happy for them to do more tests, too, so... no, i'm not against that, at all. What I don't like are 'accusations' that aren't aimed at anyone and so just kind of sit there. Also, when you see that the Corriere della Sera barely covers bike racing, but then splashes out on big things like this, it's pretty grating. It's like bike racing is only important when we're talking about doping or cheating or something.

Well except there's a video of someone's bike skidding around on its own on the site. So the motors do exist in the sport...

by anjc 11y ago

Well except there's a video of someone's bike skidding around on its own on the site. So the motors do exist in the sport...

davidw 11y ago

Video is old and has been debunked.

freehunter 11y ago
The only debunking I've seen is putting a spinning tire down in optimal conditions, which of course has it spinning like it did in the video. The video has the bike bouncing off the ground several times and coming to a complete stop on the ground in the rider's hands, and then him letting go and it spinning away. At that point, the tire should have stopped all of it's rotational inertia.
- davidw 11y ago
  It's not like they're going slow in those races - the wheel probably had a lot of momentum. In any event, reposting an old video, with a couple of grainy shots of unidentified riders whose bikes were not subsequently checked counts more as "casting aspersions" rather than "proof" in my book. I wouldn't be entirely surprised if someone somewhere was cheating, but I've come to dislike these kinds of hit pieces.
  - freehunter 11y ago
    Well obviously no one is being disqualified on this video alone. The idea is to draw attention to what could be a real issue. But calling it debunked because of another video that is just as dubious seems a little like hand-waving. What's happening is that people are trying to get the officials to look into the idea that there may be tiny hidden motors in some bikes. And what you're doing seems like you're trying to avoid that from happening.
    - davidw 11y ago
      People have been talking about this issue for a while in the cycling community. That's why they're doing tests. I'm more than happy for them to do more tests, too, so... no, i'm not against that, at all. What I don't like are 'accusations' that aren't aimed at anyone and so just kind of sit there. Also, when you see that the Corriere della Sera barely covers bike racing, but then splashes out on big things like this, it's pretty grating. It's like bike racing is only important when we're talking about doping or cheating or something.