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Google Cloud is by far the best Cloud. Beats Aws and other cloud providers by miles margin. Also keeping in mind that a service that just entered beta is the fa

Google Cloud is by far the best Cloud. Beats Aws and other cloud providers by miles margin. Also keeping in mind that a service that just entered beta is the fastest by itself is impressive. I would say, let's wait a while before commenting on features.

nikolay 10y ago
I'd chose Azure before Google Cloud if I look for AWS alternative. I see more fruitful imagination in Microsoft than in Google! I am highly disappointed by Google - they've missed so many opportunities when it comes to Cloud Computing! They started the negative trend with the ridiculous and pricey AppEngine! And now they continue to lag severely behind Amazon! Also, if people mostly cared about "the fastest", you'd see only Akamai in the past, but, no, people wanted freedom! I was stuck with Akamai and their $600/hr professional services for too long to know this first-hand! And "the fastest" is when the service is not heavily utilized like the rest and it has very limited functionality. Plus, other vendors constantly improve as well. The fastest service today is not the fastest of the tomorrow, but the one that starts with a minuscule subset of the baseline and what the others is doomed!
- wstrange 10y ago
  Last time I priced out AWS, Azure and GCE, Azure was by far the most expensive - by a long shot - at least for our usage. I think Microsoft is looking to capture their F500 base that are highly Windows/AD-centric.
  - nikolay 10y ago
    Well, I guess, GCE has won the price war. I haven't checked pricing recently, but it looks vastly cheaper than Azure here: https://www.cloudorado.com/cloud_server_comparison.jsp https://www.cloudorado.com/cloud_server_comparison.jsp Am I missing something?
  - tedmiston 10y ago
    Well Microsoft also started giving $120k (first 12 months) in free credit to startups that went through most accelerators, whereas equivalent AWS credit has been exhausted by most of us. Note that for YC, the number is $500k.
    - nikolay 10y ago
      I've heard about this as well - a friend's startup has a vast free infrastructure on Azure using the same program, but I think though you'll be in troubles having to migrate to AWS/GCE when you run out of the free credits and your startup survives one year and migration is the last thing you wanna deal with at that time. :)
- pcx 10y ago
  Google's innovation is what they are doing with Kubernetes. Amazon's ECS is meh when you compare it to Kubernetes. I don't think Azure has done anything yet in this area.
  - nikolay 10y ago
    True, but you don't need GCE to run Kubernetes. Also, given GCE is more rudimentary, you need Kubernetest with GCE more than you need it with AWS. For example, if you want to run Elasticsearch or a video transcoding service, you need something like Kubernetes on GCE, but you already get a managed service from AWS that does this well. With Lambda, API Gateway, WAF, and ECS, DynamoDB or RDS, you pretty much can cover 95% of the usage scenarios.
azazqadir 10y ago
As others have pointed out, Google's CDN does not have as many users and content as other CDN services yet. So, of course it is faster than others.
mgnacl 10y ago
Edit: retracted, after a closer look at your previous comments.
- boulos 10y ago
  Aww, he's just excited! He really does work for Monsanto, not Google and if you go back far enough you'll see he's used AWS, GCP, and Open Stack (and seems to enjoy meditation). So he's not some sort of shill, just a happy customer! Disclosure: I work on Compute Engine.
  - nikolay 10y ago
    I'm not sure if it's related to his work at Monsanto and the exposure to GMOs and herbicides, but based on his info, he is an obvious case of illeism [0]. I'm joking, of course. :) [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism
- obulpathi 10y ago
  I did PhD in Cloud and Big Data (Created a Cloud and Big Data platform for crunching large scale images on satellite clusters). I spent about 10 years of my life working on nothing but Cloud and Big Data. And I rarely do comment on anything outside my area of expertise. If you find any of my comments incorrect or interesting, I will be more than happy to engage in a conversation with you. This is also third or fourth time an account has been created to reply to my comments. I find it very interesting!
  - schlumpf 10y ago
    At least mgnacl's nick is explicit in telling you to take his/her comment with a grain of salt.
rajeevk 10y ago
Google Cloud is by far the best Cloud. Any reference for this claim?
obulpathi 10y ago
rajeevk, I can not reply to your comment, so posting here. Just take a look at my comments on hn. I compared Aws and Google cloud in terms of ease of use, pricing, open source friendliness, scalability, security, performance etc .. You can find a detail answer as to why I came to this conclusion.

nikolay 10y ago

I'd chose Azure before Google Cloud if I look for AWS alternative. I see more fruitful imagination in Microsoft than in Google! I am highly disappointed by Google - they've missed so many opportunities when it comes to Cloud Computing! They started the negative trend with the ridiculous and pricey AppEngine! And now they continue to lag severely behind Amazon! Also, if people mostly cared about "the fastest", you'd see only Akamai in the past, but, no, people wanted freedom! I was stuck with Akamai and their $600/hr professional services for too long to know this first-hand! And "the fastest" is when the service is not heavily utilized like the rest and it has very limited functionality. Plus, other vendors constantly improve as well. The fastest service today is not the fastest of the tomorrow, but the one that starts with a minuscule subset of the baseline and what the others is doomed!

wstrange 10y ago
Last time I priced out AWS, Azure and GCE, Azure was by far the most expensive - by a long shot - at least for our usage. I think Microsoft is looking to capture their F500 base that are highly Windows/AD-centric.
- nikolay 10y ago
  Well, I guess, GCE has won the price war. I haven't checked pricing recently, but it looks vastly cheaper than Azure here: https://www.cloudorado.com/cloud_server_comparison.jsp https://www.cloudorado.com/cloud_server_comparison.jsp Am I missing something?
- tedmiston 10y ago
  Well Microsoft also started giving $120k (first 12 months) in free credit to startups that went through most accelerators, whereas equivalent AWS credit has been exhausted by most of us. Note that for YC, the number is $500k.
  - nikolay 10y ago
    I've heard about this as well - a friend's startup has a vast free infrastructure on Azure using the same program, but I think though you'll be in troubles having to migrate to AWS/GCE when you run out of the free credits and your startup survives one year and migration is the last thing you wanna deal with at that time. :)
pcx 10y ago
Google's innovation is what they are doing with Kubernetes. Amazon's ECS is meh when you compare it to Kubernetes. I don't think Azure has done anything yet in this area.
- nikolay 10y ago
  True, but you don't need GCE to run Kubernetes. Also, given GCE is more rudimentary, you need Kubernetest with GCE more than you need it with AWS. For example, if you want to run Elasticsearch or a video transcoding service, you need something like Kubernetes on GCE, but you already get a managed service from AWS that does this well. With Lambda, API Gateway, WAF, and ECS, DynamoDB or RDS, you pretty much can cover 95% of the usage scenarios.

azazqadir 10y ago

As others have pointed out, Google's CDN does not have as many users and content as other CDN services yet. So, of course it is faster than others.

mgnacl 10y ago

Edit: retracted, after a closer look at your previous comments.

boulos 10y ago
Aww, he's just excited! He really does work for Monsanto, not Google and if you go back far enough you'll see he's used AWS, GCP, and Open Stack (and seems to enjoy meditation). So he's not some sort of shill, just a happy customer! Disclosure: I work on Compute Engine.
- nikolay 10y ago
  I'm not sure if it's related to his work at Monsanto and the exposure to GMOs and herbicides, but based on his info, he is an obvious case of illeism [0]. I'm joking, of course. :) [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illeism
obulpathi 10y ago
I did PhD in Cloud and Big Data (Created a Cloud and Big Data platform for crunching large scale images on satellite clusters). I spent about 10 years of my life working on nothing but Cloud and Big Data. And I rarely do comment on anything outside my area of expertise. If you find any of my comments incorrect or interesting, I will be more than happy to engage in a conversation with you. This is also third or fourth time an account has been created to reply to my comments. I find it very interesting!
- schlumpf 10y ago
  At least mgnacl's nick is explicit in telling you to take his/her comment with a grain of salt.

rajeevk 10y ago

Google Cloud is by far the best Cloud. Any reference for this claim?

obulpathi 10y ago

rajeevk, I can not reply to your comment, so posting here. Just take a look at my comments on hn. I compared Aws and Google cloud in terms of ease of use, pricing, open source friendliness, scalability, security, performance etc .. You can find a detail answer as to why I came to this conclusion.