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Could you stop faking to be an idiot, please? We already responded to that question and you know it.

by p4bl0 11y ago

ikeboy 11y ago
ufo claimed above that "The only thing the publisher does is own the name of the prestigious journal." This is false. Why is calling them on it now "faking to be an idiot"? I pointed out that there's curation, and that imposes costs. Denying that it exists doesn't help.
- p4bl0 11y ago
  Pfffffff. Once again: the curation is not performed by the publisher, but by the editorial board and the reviewers, who are researchers, and are not paid by the publishers for this work.
  - ikeboy 11y ago
    A cursory google search turns up plenty of counterexamples. See http://blog.journals.cambridge.org/2012/06/14/recruiting-a-journal-editor-an-hss-challenge/ http://blog.journals.cambridge.org/2012/06/14/recruiting-a-j... and http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2002/02/editorial-boards-step-academic-career-ladder http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2002/02/editorial-boards-s... I'll note that even PLOS medicine wasn't able to get editors for free, as an open access journal http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/s/competing-interests-of-the-plos-medicine-editors http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/s/competing-interests-...
    - p4bl0 11y ago
      Paid academic journal editors are rare exceptions. From one of your own links: Carol Barnes, professor of psychology and neurology at the University of Arizona in Tucson, is a reviewing editor at the Journal of Neuroscience, a 3-year appointment for which *she receives no compensation*. (…) Barnes has received funding from the university to hire an assistant to provide clerical support to assist her with the manuscript review process. She considers herself fortunate, because "without this help, I would have had to decline this position." Not only she was still paid by the university for whats seems to be a full time job during 3 years according to the article, but in addition to that the university, not the publisher, paid for an assistant to this job!
      - ikeboy 11y ago
        That journal appears to be owned by a non profit.
        p4bl0 11y ago
        And I can assure you that the situation is similar with journals owned by Wiley, Springer, and Elsevier, for examples.

Could you stop faking to be an idiot, please? We already responded to that question and you know it.

by p4bl0 11y ago

Could you stop faking to be an idiot, please? We already responded to that question and you know it.

ufo claimed above that "The only thing the publisher does is own the name of the prestigious journal." This is false. Why is calling them on it now "faking to be an idiot"? I pointed out that there's curation, and that imposes costs. Denying that it exists doesn't help.

p4bl0 11y ago
Pfffffff. Once again: the curation is not performed by the publisher, but by the editorial board and the reviewers, who are researchers, and are not paid by the publishers for this work.
- ikeboy 11y ago
  A cursory google search turns up plenty of counterexamples. See http://blog.journals.cambridge.org/2012/06/14/recruiting-a-journal-editor-an-hss-challenge/ http://blog.journals.cambridge.org/2012/06/14/recruiting-a-j... and http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2002/02/editorial-boards-step-academic-career-ladder http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2002/02/editorial-boards-s... I'll note that even PLOS medicine wasn't able to get editors for free, as an open access journal http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/s/competing-interests-of-the-plos-medicine-editors http://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/s/competing-interests-...
  - p4bl0 11y ago
    Paid academic journal editors are rare exceptions. From one of your own links: Carol Barnes, professor of psychology and neurology at the University of Arizona in Tucson, is a reviewing editor at the Journal of Neuroscience, a 3-year appointment for which *she receives no compensation*. (…) Barnes has received funding from the university to hire an assistant to provide clerical support to assist her with the manuscript review process. She considers herself fortunate, because "without this help, I would have had to decline this position." Not only she was still paid by the university for whats seems to be a full time job during 3 years according to the article, but in addition to that the university, not the publisher, paid for an assistant to this job!
    - ikeboy 11y ago
      That journal appears to be owned by a non profit.
      - p4bl0 11y ago
        And I can assure you that the situation is similar with journals owned by Wiley, Springer, and Elsevier, for examples.