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>It's probably not worth engaging with you Oh, don't worry about me. Worry instead about the dumb, ahistorical position you've staked out here. 1) You claime
by harrumph 11y ago
>It's probably not worth engaging with you
Oh, don't worry about me. Worry instead about the dumb, ahistorical position you've staked out here.
1) You claimed VZ's oil industry was "incompetent" and that its "talent fled" leading to the people of VZ being "unable to understand" their industry. These were your exact words. But when I correctly summed up your argument with the paraphrase "they're too dumb," all of a sudden you back away from your own argument, as if it had shat itself.
That cheesy evasion on your part inclines adults to be MORE suspicious of your argument, not less.
2) Literally every argument for colonial extraction of resources from indigenous populations has, for centuries of history now, been made in exactly the manner you have made it: the locals aren't advanced enough to realize the value from their resources. Therefore we HAVE to mine the gold, drill the oil, harvest the fruit, etc. Thus, foreign "investment" is necessary.
This is capitalism at its most disgusting: dressed up in frilly underwear with "altruism" stitched across its ass. The argument is the definition of self-serving, and, as I've said, adults should be able to see through it by now. I can tell you the indigenous peoples of Iran, Chile, Nigeria, Canada, the US, Australia, Venezuala, ad infinitum, already do.
- Jtsummers 11y ago> cronyism put incompetent people in charge of factories and industries they didn't understand. GP's words. > leading to the people of VZ being "unable to understand" their industry Your words. Those do not mean the same thing. GP is referring to the cronies in charge when they say "people". Not the people of Venezuela.
- harrumph 11y ago>GP is referring to the cronies in charge when they say "people". Not the people of Venezuela. Distinction without difference fallacy.
- Jtsummers 11y agoIt's a massive distinction. I can refer to the CEO of a corporation as incompetent without commenting on the people that work for that corporation. The original poster was specifically referring to the people in charge [of the nationalized oil industry], not to the people of Venezuela[, the nominal owners of said industry]. Your conflation of the two completely misses their point and consequently derailed what could have been an otherwise interesting discussion.
- harrumph 11y ago>It's a massive distinction. I'm sure that is your wish, but we can all read.