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Coming from an avid Jazz listener, this is awful. Not even close. I don't mean this as a slight at all, but definitely raise the bar on your experiments.

Uehreka 11y ago
I thought it was neat for a few seconds, but then it got stale really quickly. But then I listened to the original (the track used to train the network) and realized the problem: the network only knows how to write one song. What you hear on SoundCloud is the equivalent of giving someone a 5 paragraph essay, and then telling them to write a 10,000 word paper using only sentences contained in that essay. Supposing that this program can accept more than 1 song in its training data, I expect it could produce really interesting stuff.
- mpdehaan2 11y ago
  Yeah it's kind of pixelizing an existing song. What I really want to do is teach a program to jam and know what sounds good - which is a lot harder. But there's a part of music where human soul needs to be, and that is interesting too, and some of the expression stuff is harder to do in MIDI land, you can modulate a filter cutoff or velocity or something - but compared to a live player there is a LOT of work to do.
zappo2938 11y ago
I wonder what T.S. Eliot would think of this? Where it would fall between tradition and the individual talent?[1] He discusses how a poet ( or musician ) takes notions and feelings that a reader ( or listener ) all ready know and experience and combines it in new ways to lead the reader ( or listener ) to experience new feelings they haven't experienced yet. And, in T.S. Eliot case this was point of transcendental poetry, to go beyond. Or, Rainer Maria Rilke on what is art. To him [2] art is the reflection of the experience. Go out into the world, live, and that is the base of the art. There is a connectedness to the shared suffering experienced listening to jazz. I don't experience it in this music. [1] http://www.bartleby.com/200/sw4.html http://www.bartleby.com/200/sw4.html [2] http://www.carrothers.com/rilke1.htm http://www.carrothers.com/rilke1.htm

Uehreka 11y ago

I thought it was neat for a few seconds, but then it got stale really quickly. But then I listened to the original (the track used to train the network) and realized the problem: the network only knows how to write one song. What you hear on SoundCloud is the equivalent of giving someone a 5 paragraph essay, and then telling them to write a 10,000 word paper using only sentences contained in that essay. Supposing that this program can accept more than 1 song in its training data, I expect it could produce really interesting stuff.

mpdehaan2 11y ago
Yeah it's kind of pixelizing an existing song. What I really want to do is teach a program to jam and know what sounds good - which is a lot harder. But there's a part of music where human soul needs to be, and that is interesting too, and some of the expression stuff is harder to do in MIDI land, you can modulate a filter cutoff or velocity or something - but compared to a live player there is a LOT of work to do.

zappo2938 11y ago

I wonder what T.S. Eliot would think of this? Where it would fall between tradition and the individual talent?[1] He discusses how a poet ( or musician ) takes notions and feelings that a reader ( or listener ) all ready know and experience and combines it in new ways to lead the reader ( or listener ) to experience new feelings they haven't experienced yet. And, in T.S. Eliot case this was point of transcendental poetry, to go beyond. Or, Rainer Maria Rilke on what is art. To him [2] art is the reflection of the experience. Go out into the world, live, and that is the base of the art. There is a connectedness to the shared suffering experienced listening to jazz. I don't experience it in this music. [1] http://www.bartleby.com/200/sw4.html http://www.bartleby.com/200/sw4.html [2] http://www.carrothers.com/rilke1.htm http://www.carrothers.com/rilke1.htm