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We run a small microsite service for designers and once enabled single page view tracking metrics - we had at the time very few customers and yet manage to smas

We run a small microsite service for designers and once enabled single page view tracking metrics - we had at the time very few customers and yet manage to smash trough our 50k keen.io event allowance in a single day. Can't imagine it on sonething where books have hundred pages and users running in the million

phonon 11y ago
You don't think amazon can handle a few GB of log files every day for the entire kindle unlimited service? Really? Worst case you do some sampling.
- LoSboccacc 11y ago
  I'm sure they can do, they bill themselves at a different price
  - coldtea 11y ago
    It's not even about the billing. Companies 1/1000 the size of Amazon can afford it.
    - LoSboccacc 11y ago
      you mean 10 million a year revenue company? I wish we'd be there.
      - coldtea 11y ago
        Yep. VC funded startups with 5-10 million in funding can handle GB per day log processing.
joeld42 11y ago
You can do the aggregation locally on the device. You wouldn't want to send every page view as an immediate event, just send the aggregates every 15 minutes or at the start or end of each session.
takno 11y ago
That seems like an exceptionally low allowance for any kind of page view tracking. Given that they have the technology in place server-side, and it's not an incredibly hard problem, the server-side costs to Amazon of doing this would be tiny. No comment on the cost of designing a decent algorithm and keeping ahead in the cat and mouse games.
- LoSboccacc 11y ago
  eh it's the cost of using a prepackaged solution. I'd move to an internal one but up until now developing features for the app had more precedence than developing a state of the art event tracking solution.
  - takno 11y ago
    Yeah, the prices aren't that insane overall tbh. The small size of the free-tier suprised me, but my impression is that free tiers on services have been shrinking since last time I was in that size of company
ceejayoz 11y ago
It needn't be a tracking event per page. They're already firing {"current_page":3000}. They just need to start doing something like {"current_page":3000,"pages_seen":5}.

phonon 11y ago

You don't think amazon can handle a few GB of log files every day for the entire kindle unlimited service? Really? Worst case you do some sampling.

LoSboccacc 11y ago
I'm sure they can do, they bill themselves at a different price
- coldtea 11y ago
  It's not even about the billing. Companies 1/1000 the size of Amazon can afford it.
  - LoSboccacc 11y ago
    you mean 10 million a year revenue company? I wish we'd be there.
    - coldtea 11y ago
      Yep. VC funded startups with 5-10 million in funding can handle GB per day log processing.

joeld42 11y ago

You can do the aggregation locally on the device. You wouldn't want to send every page view as an immediate event, just send the aggregates every 15 minutes or at the start or end of each session.

takno 11y ago

That seems like an exceptionally low allowance for any kind of page view tracking. Given that they have the technology in place server-side, and it's not an incredibly hard problem, the server-side costs to Amazon of doing this would be tiny. No comment on the cost of designing a decent algorithm and keeping ahead in the cat and mouse games.

LoSboccacc 11y ago
eh it's the cost of using a prepackaged solution. I'd move to an internal one but up until now developing features for the app had more precedence than developing a state of the art event tracking solution.
- takno 11y ago
  Yeah, the prices aren't that insane overall tbh. The small size of the free-tier suprised me, but my impression is that free tiers on services have been shrinking since last time I was in that size of company

ceejayoz 11y ago

It needn't be a tracking event per page. They're already firing {"current_page":3000}. They just need to start doing something like {"current_page":3000,"pages_seen":5}.