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Or the collective not my issue I wasn't alive pass the buck. So what I got a full deck of cards and you got less. It wasn't my system so deal with it and don't

by baldfat 11y ago

Or the collective not my issue I wasn't alive pass the buck. So what I got a full deck of cards and you got less. It wasn't my system so deal with it and don't make me own my advantage.

pavel_lishin 11y ago
It's possible to affect positive change without being burdened by personal or historical guilt.
- baldfat 11y ago
  Yeah that worked so well US certainly doesn't have people caring about our past and trying to kill us.
  - pavel_lishin 11y ago
    If you want everyone to love you, be a kitten. There isn't a country or a demographic in the world that isn't hated by someone.
    - baldfat 11y ago
      Switzerland? New Zealand?
      - pavel_lishin 11y ago
        > Switzerland? I'd wager that some people are pretty unhappy with their behavior during World War II. > New Zealand? I've got nothin'.
  - PhasmaFelis 11y ago
    I mean, we're also trying to kill them. All this anger didn't come from nowhere.
jdimov9 11y ago
I fully own all of my advantages and make a conscious decision not to share any of them with you, because you're an asshole.
WalterSear 11y ago
I get the feeling that this is was the attitude take by the people who did all those bad things in the first place. Maybe they would have explained it as 'what god gave them'. But that's neither here nor there - it's either your system now, to try and make things more equitable for the next people to come along, or you are part of what's keeping the unjust system in place. So, sure, there's no reason to feel guilty for whatever anyone did, whenever they did it, and however much DNA you share with them. But, what >you< do to fix it, well, that is your responsibility, and your guilt if you do not.
- jqm 11y ago
  It's not my responsibility to "fix" things that can't be fixed like greed and hate and violence from centuries ago. I don't believe there is a governmental social program that can fix it either. The only thing I can do is try my best to be a good and fair and kind person in the time I'm in now. I can't atone for what assholes centuries ago did even if I wanted to. This collective blame assignment is the same kind of evil thinking that led to someone trying to wipe out a race in the first place.

by baldfat 11y ago

Or the collective not my issue I wasn't alive pass the buck. So what I got a full deck of cards and you got less. It wasn't my system so deal with it and don't make me own my advantage.

pavel_lishin 11y ago

It's possible to affect positive change without being burdened by personal or historical guilt.

baldfat 11y ago
Yeah that worked so well US certainly doesn't have people caring about our past and trying to kill us.
- pavel_lishin 11y ago
  If you want everyone to love you, be a kitten. There isn't a country or a demographic in the world that isn't hated by someone.
  - baldfat 11y ago
    Switzerland? New Zealand?
    - pavel_lishin 11y ago
      > Switzerland? I'd wager that some people are pretty unhappy with their behavior during World War II. > New Zealand? I've got nothin'.
- PhasmaFelis 11y ago
  I mean, we're also trying to kill them. All this anger didn't come from nowhere.

jdimov9 11y ago

I fully own all of my advantages and make a conscious decision not to share any of them with you, because you're an asshole.

WalterSear 11y ago

I get the feeling that this is was the attitude take by the people who did all those bad things in the first place. Maybe they would have explained it as 'what god gave them'. But that's neither here nor there - it's either your system now, to try and make things more equitable for the next people to come along, or you are part of what's keeping the unjust system in place. So, sure, there's no reason to feel guilty for whatever anyone did, whenever they did it, and however much DNA you share with them. But, what >you< do to fix it, well, that is your responsibility, and your guilt if you do not.

jqm 11y ago
It's not my responsibility to "fix" things that can't be fixed like greed and hate and violence from centuries ago. I don't believe there is a governmental social program that can fix it either. The only thing I can do is try my best to be a good and fair and kind person in the time I'm in now. I can't atone for what assholes centuries ago did even if I wanted to. This collective blame assignment is the same kind of evil thinking that led to someone trying to wipe out a race in the first place.