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Except that git is used specifically by users who are downloading and compiling software.

by xyzzy123 11y ago

brightball 11y ago
And at this point the first instruction for any OSX user who downloads and compiles anything is "Install Homebrew"
- stephenr 11y ago
  Except for those who have used it and refuse to use it again. There are prebuilt binaries of up to date git distributed via .pkg. The yeast infection that is Homebrew is unnecessary
  - brightball 11y ago
    That's kind've harsh. What's the issue? Homebrew was about the best option that's existed on OSX for a few years now I thought...
    - stephenr 11y ago
      The dependency management is a joke, compile-by-default means it's slow as hell.
      - anu_gupta 11y ago
        I look forward to your release of something better
        stephenr 11y ago
        So your world view is that only those with a competing solution are allowed to identify issues in something?
        deleted 11y ago
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        mwfunk 11y ago
        If you're going to be that snarky and nonconstructive about it, you're going to get snarky and nonconstructive comments back. Or at the very least, you're not going to inspire any thoughtful and interesting observations from anyone.
      - danieldk 11y ago
        Most commonly-used dependencies are bottled (precompiled) these days.
        stephenr 11y ago
        Except the dependency management solution is terrible, unless you want to compile everything yourself. For example: https://github.com/Homebrew/legacy-homebrew/issues/35995 https://github.com/Homebrew/legacy-homebrew/issues/35995
    - icedchai 11y ago
      Personally I use MacPorts.
- atdt 11y ago
  The Homebrew installation process uses the system git.
  - arm 11y ago
    Yep, since Homebrew requires the Xcode Developer Tools to be installed (which of course includes the outdated Git).
  - danieldk 11y ago
    Yes, but if Homebrew is malicious, you'd have more problems than a specially-crafted repository that exploits a git vulnerability. You are installing something that has all user access rights.
  - gpvos 11y ago
    Can you inunstall XCode again once you have installed a compiler, toolchain, and git via Homebrew?
    - matt4077 11y ago
      You can just install the command line tools without xcode. From those tools, most can be replaced with their homebrew versions so you only need them for bootstrapping. But if you want to do hardware- or OS X related development, you will need to keep the tools around. CUDA, for example, needs clang et. all. They don't take much space, though, and the toolchain is treated a bit better by Apple than utilities like git, vim etc.
      - gpvos 11y ago
        I don't know about homebrew, but macports has clang and other toolchain stuff, so I think it might be possible to uninstall Xcode after installing all necessary tools through macports?
  - OJFord 11y ago
    You _could_ get recent git by some other means prior to installing homebrew. Anything short of compiling from source wouldn't require ever installing XCLT.

Except that git is used specifically by users who are downloading and compiling software.

brightball 11y ago

And at this point the first instruction for any OSX user who downloads and compiles anything is "Install Homebrew"

stephenr 11y ago
Except for those who have used it and refuse to use it again. There are prebuilt binaries of up to date git distributed via .pkg. The yeast infection that is Homebrew is unnecessary
- brightball 11y ago
  That's kind've harsh. What's the issue? Homebrew was about the best option that's existed on OSX for a few years now I thought...
  - stephenr 11y ago
    The dependency management is a joke, compile-by-default means it's slow as hell.
    - anu_gupta 11y ago
      I look forward to your release of something better
      - stephenr 11y ago
        So your world view is that only those with a competing solution are allowed to identify issues in something?
        deleted 11y ago
        [deleted]
        mwfunk 11y ago
        If you're going to be that snarky and nonconstructive about it, you're going to get snarky and nonconstructive comments back. Or at the very least, you're not going to inspire any thoughtful and interesting observations from anyone.
    - danieldk 11y ago
      Most commonly-used dependencies are bottled (precompiled) these days.
      - stephenr 11y ago
        Except the dependency management solution is terrible, unless you want to compile everything yourself. For example: https://github.com/Homebrew/legacy-homebrew/issues/35995 https://github.com/Homebrew/legacy-homebrew/issues/35995
  - icedchai 11y ago
    Personally I use MacPorts.
atdt 11y ago
The Homebrew installation process uses the system git.
- arm 11y ago
  Yep, since Homebrew requires the Xcode Developer Tools to be installed (which of course includes the outdated Git).
- danieldk 11y ago
  Yes, but if Homebrew is malicious, you'd have more problems than a specially-crafted repository that exploits a git vulnerability. You are installing something that has all user access rights.
- gpvos 11y ago
  Can you inunstall XCode again once you have installed a compiler, toolchain, and git via Homebrew?
  - matt4077 11y ago
    You can just install the command line tools without xcode. From those tools, most can be replaced with their homebrew versions so you only need them for bootstrapping. But if you want to do hardware- or OS X related development, you will need to keep the tools around. CUDA, for example, needs clang et. all. They don't take much space, though, and the toolchain is treated a bit better by Apple than utilities like git, vim etc.
    - gpvos 11y ago
      I don't know about homebrew, but macports has clang and other toolchain stuff, so I think it might be possible to uninstall Xcode after installing all necessary tools through macports?
- OJFord 11y ago
  You _could_ get recent git by some other means prior to installing homebrew. Anything short of compiling from source wouldn't require ever installing XCLT.