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this sounds like the conservative attack ads against Trudeau that lead up to the election... that definately lowered the bar for Canadian politics by attacking

by sergers 11y ago

this sounds like the conservative attack ads against Trudeau that lead up to the election... that definately lowered the bar for Canadian politics by attacking his background and taking comments out of context to "shame" him and his party. it didnt work. i would expect a Canadian leader to be visiting the white house for dinner, as do many political/country leaders. i would expect him to be going cross country trips as thats what every PM has done. "Would HN be upvoting this story if it was Stephan Dion or Stephen Harper trying to teach QM?" no, as i expect the press to never ask them that type of question and never being in a situatiton to be asked that type of question. i personally dont care for trudeau and what mostly the press brings up about him, i do however support some of his policies more so than any other candidate. most people voted liberal in their riding as Justin Trudeau was not Stephen Harper and the Conservative party, and was more of a free thinker compared to the other options. everyone was tired of Stephen Harper and his policies that i would say set canada back on the world stage... canada was just a lacky in the shadow behind the USA, following along most actions. every political leader makes promises and dont fulfill, that IS politics... but as some has pointed out Trudeau has a decent track record so far.

beloch 11y ago
The "We're back" schtick is pure BS. Canada never left, and it remains to be seen if we do more or less internationally under the Liberals. I'd be pretty insulted by Trudeau if I was in the diplomatic service though. Trudeau does seem to be striking a much more conciliatory tone with the U.N., which could be good or bad in the long run, depending on whether the current problems within the U.N. improve or worsen. Trudeau is certainly drawing more international press, but that's not the same as increasing foreign aid, involvement in peace-keeping missions, etc.. As for the conservative attack ads, they're no different than the attack ads any of the other parties typically run. Do you remember the "We can't trust Harper, he's from neocon Calgary and has a hidden agenda!" smear campaign from the election before last? It was so effective they didn't even need to run it during the last election. People wonder why Alberta typically doesn't support the Liberal party, but demonizing the province as a means of vilifying a leader is one big reason why that's the case. Trudeau did rely relatively less on attack ads than his opponents in the last election, which I approve of. However, the rise of PAC's with funding from god knows where does make it suspiciously easy for parties to run attack ads on the sly without fear of blowback. Whether the Liberals funded them or not, there were plenty of attack ads against harper during the last election. I'd like to see PAC's regulated much more strenuously in the future. In particular, their donors need to be a matter of public record.

by sergers 11y ago

beloch 11y ago

The "We're back" schtick is pure BS. Canada never left, and it remains to be seen if we do more or less internationally under the Liberals. I'd be pretty insulted by Trudeau if I was in the diplomatic service though. Trudeau does seem to be striking a much more conciliatory tone with the U.N., which could be good or bad in the long run, depending on whether the current problems within the U.N. improve or worsen. Trudeau is certainly drawing more international press, but that's not the same as increasing foreign aid, involvement in peace-keeping missions, etc.. As for the conservative attack ads, they're no different than the attack ads any of the other parties typically run. Do you remember the "We can't trust Harper, he's from neocon Calgary and has a hidden agenda!" smear campaign from the election before last? It was so effective they didn't even need to run it during the last election. People wonder why Alberta typically doesn't support the Liberal party, but demonizing the province as a means of vilifying a leader is one big reason why that's the case. Trudeau did rely relatively less on attack ads than his opponents in the last election, which I approve of. However, the rise of PAC's with funding from god knows where does make it suspiciously easy for parties to run attack ads on the sly without fear of blowback. Whether the Liberals funded them or not, there were plenty of attack ads against harper during the last election. I'd like to see PAC's regulated much more strenuously in the future. In particular, their donors need to be a matter of public record.