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While I agree with your points about him debating more in sound bytes than in real answers... In fairness he's actually been doing reasonably well on his promi

by benzor 10y ago

While I agree with your points about him debating more in sound bytes than in real answers... In fairness he's actually been doing reasonably well on his promises, as tracked by the TrudeauMetre[1]. Off the top of my head, unmuzzling scientists, restoring the long form census, and legalizing marijuana are all big contentious points that are either done or seriously underway. Given the abysmal promise-to-result ratio of typical politicians he's earned a passing grade in my books. []1 https://www.trudeaumetre.ca/ https://www.trudeaumetre.ca/

saeranv 10y ago
Same here. Another big one is the stimulus he's released with the new budget. I'm not sure how he's doing on the Syrian refugee count, but just his attitude to the problem is such a relief compared to Harper.
- beloch 10y ago
  What was Harper's attitude on Syrian refugees? I seem to recall he said Trudeau's goal of 10000 before the end of 2015 was unrealistic, and that's exactly what it turned out to be. He was going to bring in about the same number Trudeau actually managed to bring in.
  - saeranv 10y ago
    Harper promised to bring in 10k over 4 years. Trudeau promised more than double that. And as I said, the Harper government's attitude to refugee claimants was just disgusting. This is what Harper's Minister of Immigration had to say when the Ontario govt defied the federal government's decision to reduce health care for refugee claimants: "I've expressed our government's disappointment with the Ontario government's recent decision to reinstate health-care benefits to all asylum seekers and even rejected refugee claimants," Alexander said. "Simply arriving on our shores and claiming hardships isn't good enough. This isn't a self-selection bonanza, or a social program buffet." It's embarrassing that our government would demean and deny refugees their human dignity while they are asking for help. [1] http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chris-alexander-scolds-ontario-over-health-care-to-refugees-1.2507008 http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chris-alexander-scolds-ontar...
beloch 10y ago
219 promises tracked: 29 achieved 15 broken 63 in progress 112 not started So he's already broken 6.8% of his total promises just 1/8th of the way through his term. That's not good. He's also broken just over half as many promises as he's kept, which I'd say is pretty darned typical of politicians. Legalizing marijuana is in progress, but I've heard nothing concrete. Unmuzzling scientists and restoring the long form census were both good. Reversing the transparency act was bad. I was most interested in his promises to increase government transparency, but some are reporting it's actually worse [1]. He also promised in an interview with Peter Mansbridge to reduce the concentration of power in the PMO, but he's done nothing about that so far. We're just an eigth of the way through his term, so the jury is still out in my opinion. He's done some good, some bad, but at this point he's still mostly just a bundle of promises. [1]http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/preston-manning-s-prescription-to-recharge-the-right-1.3463742/liberal-fiscal-plans-less-transparent-than-under-harper-kevin-page-says-1.3464078 http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/preston-manning-s-prescript...
- kilotaras 10y ago
  >So he's already broken 6.8% of his total promises just 1/8th of the way through his term. That's not good. He's also broken just over half as many promises as he's kept, which I'd say is pretty darned typical of politicians. Sadly that's not that bad. For example you can check Ukraines MP's promises[1]. It's in Ukrainian, so yellow is WIP, green/red are self-explanatory and black is total. [1] http://www.slovoidilo.ua/ratings/persons/parliament/all/index.html http://www.slovoidilo.ua/ratings/persons/parliament/all/inde...
- sospep 10y ago
  Some promises, ex "Bring in 25K Syrian refugees by end of 2015" is considered "Broken" for the purposes of the "Promise Tracker" but the government actually did bring in 25K refugees and counting, they didnt hit the 25K mark until sometime in 2016-02. So, keep in mind that while that promise may be 'technically broken', they pretty much did what they said they were going to do.

by benzor 10y ago

saeranv 10y ago

Same here. Another big one is the stimulus he's released with the new budget. I'm not sure how he's doing on the Syrian refugee count, but just his attitude to the problem is such a relief compared to Harper.

beloch 10y ago
What was Harper's attitude on Syrian refugees? I seem to recall he said Trudeau's goal of 10000 before the end of 2015 was unrealistic, and that's exactly what it turned out to be. He was going to bring in about the same number Trudeau actually managed to bring in.
- saeranv 10y ago
  Harper promised to bring in 10k over 4 years. Trudeau promised more than double that. And as I said, the Harper government's attitude to refugee claimants was just disgusting. This is what Harper's Minister of Immigration had to say when the Ontario govt defied the federal government's decision to reduce health care for refugee claimants: "I've expressed our government's disappointment with the Ontario government's recent decision to reinstate health-care benefits to all asylum seekers and even rejected refugee claimants," Alexander said. "Simply arriving on our shores and claiming hardships isn't good enough. This isn't a self-selection bonanza, or a social program buffet." It's embarrassing that our government would demean and deny refugees their human dignity while they are asking for help. [1] http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chris-alexander-scolds-ontario-over-health-care-to-refugees-1.2507008 http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chris-alexander-scolds-ontar...

beloch 10y ago

219 promises tracked: 29 achieved 15 broken 63 in progress 112 not started So he's already broken 6.8% of his total promises just 1/8th of the way through his term. That's not good. He's also broken just over half as many promises as he's kept, which I'd say is pretty darned typical of politicians. Legalizing marijuana is in progress, but I've heard nothing concrete. Unmuzzling scientists and restoring the long form census were both good. Reversing the transparency act was bad. I was most interested in his promises to increase government transparency, but some are reporting it's actually worse [1]. He also promised in an interview with Peter Mansbridge to reduce the concentration of power in the PMO, but he's done nothing about that so far. We're just an eigth of the way through his term, so the jury is still out in my opinion. He's done some good, some bad, but at this point he's still mostly just a bundle of promises. [1]http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/preston-manning-s-prescription-to-recharge-the-right-1.3463742/liberal-fiscal-plans-less-transparent-than-under-harper-kevin-page-says-1.3464078 http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thehouse/preston-manning-s-prescript...

kilotaras 10y ago
>So he's already broken 6.8% of his total promises just 1/8th of the way through his term. That's not good. He's also broken just over half as many promises as he's kept, which I'd say is pretty darned typical of politicians. Sadly that's not that bad. For example you can check Ukraines MP's promises[1]. It's in Ukrainian, so yellow is WIP, green/red are self-explanatory and black is total. [1] http://www.slovoidilo.ua/ratings/persons/parliament/all/index.html http://www.slovoidilo.ua/ratings/persons/parliament/all/inde...
sospep 10y ago
Some promises, ex "Bring in 25K Syrian refugees by end of 2015" is considered "Broken" for the purposes of the "Promise Tracker" but the government actually did bring in 25K refugees and counting, they didnt hit the 25K mark until sometime in 2016-02. So, keep in mind that while that promise may be 'technically broken', they pretty much did what they said they were going to do.