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I created a order taking ios app for companies in Italy with Sales reps. Here's all my first sale story. -Inbound marketing I setup a web site...and eventua

I created a order taking ios app for companies in Italy with Sales reps. Here's all my first sale story. -Inbound marketing I setup a web site...and eventually got some leads (name email phone). -Qualifying call I call them up and asked them about the problem they were trying to solve. Many of them were just Software tourists (people that sign up just for fun) but some looked promising. -Skype meeting Setup. Some of them asked me to visit them... I said yes, but I told them that I would to set up a short Skype meeting first to understand their problem better... In reality I just wanted to know I there where really App-Worthy before doing the human brochure. -Skype meeting. At the beginning of the skype meeting I would try to know more about them, their role in the company etc.. After a little warm up I would dive into the problems list and asked them what my app should do for them rather then just presenting my app. I asked them if they already have a budget, and when they would like to solve the problem I show them part of my app (only the parts they asked for) and clearly asked them from 1 to 10 if they think my app would solves their problem. If I got a vote 8 or below I asked what it would take to reach a 10. If I got a vote above 8 I asked what we should next.. Most of them usually reply "send me a proposal" -End of story After few days... I received my first signed proposal... without meetng them.

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zavi 11y ago
"software tourists" - from now on I will be using this term
- superuser2 11y ago
  I've been a software tourist dozens of times. Even have a Google Voice mailbox just for software salesman to blackhole into. I'm just curious about stuff. I want to play with the trial, read the manual, see the data sheets and whitepapers, etc. But your stupid website demands my contact information. I'm not trying to waste your time, and if you'd just let me at the damn PDFs I wouldn't.
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  - bdcravens 11y ago
    Many software professionals can become a free sales force if software companies would let them. I may tour dozens of solutions for different things - I'm educating myself on what's out there, and just because I'm not in your sales funnel now, it doesn't mean that I won't leave business at your door step in the future (which I've done several times throughout my career)
  - enraged_camel 11y ago
    >>I'm just curious about stuff. I want to play with the trial, read the manual, see the data sheets and whitepapers, etc. But your stupid website demands my contact information. It's so that a few days after you download the PDF, someone can contact you and ask what you thought. I've been in that position a few times and I really appreciated it, because I was really busy and had totally forgotten to read the material. Besides, it's a really, really good way to identify which companies are worth doing business with. You provide your contact info to five companies and then check to see which ones care enough to call you vs. just spam you with junk. IME signals like that matter as much as the product itself.
    - CamperBob2 11y ago
      It's so that a few days after you download the PDF, someone can contact you and ask what you thought. Yeah, that scales really well for both of us.
      - tjbiddle 11y ago
        Why wouldn't it? Have an automated email sent ~8-11am in the morning their time, personalize it with their name, ask for their thoughts. They either reply or don't - either way, automation made sure you didn't waste any time.
        CamperBob2 11y ago
beachstartup 11y ago
this all sounds about right. refinements i would add: * don't ask the customer what the next step is, tell them, show them, push them in the right direction. they have a job to do, and don't want to think about yours. * also setup a final proposal review meeting for last minute q&a. ask what any last hurdles might be. then push hard for the signature, buyers respect a seller who is confidently trying to drive the schedule forward. be polite but drive forward. * include a deposit, if not the entire licensing fee as a requirement to start work/deployment. a customer that does not pay you is not a real customer, they are trying to manipulate you for some other purpose i.e. reducing their incumbent vendor's price. * if you have a working product, do not, under any circumstances, offer any kind of "30 day out" clause, or refund, or whatever. this just means you are going to waste 30 days of your time and money. this is fine for SaaS with freemium, but not enterprisey sales/services driven deals. in larger businesses you can be flexible on the last point (i.e. accepting a purchase order instead of cash), but as a small shop you can't afford to waste your time or be jerked around by assholes. but honestly i wouldn't even worry about it, if you're a newbie at sales, it's 100% guaranteed you're going to learn that the hard way. c'est la vie.
- mapster 10y ago
  the 'what happens next' question should be answered or asked depending on the client's personality. sometimes the client wants to be a little important in the negotiations or the company clearly has their own way of doing things, so I ask them 'now what', but it is never asked so bluntly. More along the lines of "To move forward, I typically would send you a proposal/invoice, but I would defer to you on how you company handles this. What works for you?"
asimuvPR 11y ago
This also translates to small businesses as well. It is similar to the approach I take. Biggest difference is that the proposal I send is closer to a contract (with payment terms clearly defined).
aagha 11y ago
I'm curious: What kind of $ amounts are we talking about here?

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zavi 11y ago

"software tourists" - from now on I will be using this term

superuser2 11y ago
I've been a software tourist dozens of times. Even have a Google Voice mailbox just for software salesman to blackhole into. I'm just curious about stuff. I want to play with the trial, read the manual, see the data sheets and whitepapers, etc. But your stupid website demands my contact information. I'm not trying to waste your time, and if you'd just let me at the damn PDFs I wouldn't.
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- bdcravens 11y ago
  Many software professionals can become a free sales force if software companies would let them. I may tour dozens of solutions for different things - I'm educating myself on what's out there, and just because I'm not in your sales funnel now, it doesn't mean that I won't leave business at your door step in the future (which I've done several times throughout my career)
- enraged_camel 11y ago
  >>I'm just curious about stuff. I want to play with the trial, read the manual, see the data sheets and whitepapers, etc. But your stupid website demands my contact information. It's so that a few days after you download the PDF, someone can contact you and ask what you thought. I've been in that position a few times and I really appreciated it, because I was really busy and had totally forgotten to read the material. Besides, it's a really, really good way to identify which companies are worth doing business with. You provide your contact info to five companies and then check to see which ones care enough to call you vs. just spam you with junk. IME signals like that matter as much as the product itself.
  - CamperBob2 11y ago
    It's so that a few days after you download the PDF, someone can contact you and ask what you thought. Yeah, that scales really well for both of us.
    - tjbiddle 11y ago
      Why wouldn't it? Have an automated email sent ~8-11am in the morning their time, personalize it with their name, ask for their thoughts. They either reply or don't - either way, automation made sure you didn't waste any time.
      - CamperBob2 11y ago

beachstartup 11y ago

this all sounds about right. refinements i would add: * don't ask the customer what the next step is, tell them, show them, push them in the right direction. they have a job to do, and don't want to think about yours. * also setup a final proposal review meeting for last minute q&a. ask what any last hurdles might be. then push hard for the signature, buyers respect a seller who is confidently trying to drive the schedule forward. be polite but drive forward. * include a deposit, if not the entire licensing fee as a requirement to start work/deployment. a customer that does not pay you is not a real customer, they are trying to manipulate you for some other purpose i.e. reducing their incumbent vendor's price. * if you have a working product, do not, under any circumstances, offer any kind of "30 day out" clause, or refund, or whatever. this just means you are going to waste 30 days of your time and money. this is fine for SaaS with freemium, but not enterprisey sales/services driven deals. in larger businesses you can be flexible on the last point (i.e. accepting a purchase order instead of cash), but as a small shop you can't afford to waste your time or be jerked around by assholes. but honestly i wouldn't even worry about it, if you're a newbie at sales, it's 100% guaranteed you're going to learn that the hard way. c'est la vie.

mapster 10y ago
the 'what happens next' question should be answered or asked depending on the client's personality. sometimes the client wants to be a little important in the negotiations or the company clearly has their own way of doing things, so I ask them 'now what', but it is never asked so bluntly. More along the lines of "To move forward, I typically would send you a proposal/invoice, but I would defer to you on how you company handles this. What works for you?"

asimuvPR 11y ago

This also translates to small businesses as well. It is similar to the approach I take. Biggest difference is that the proposal I send is closer to a contract (with payment terms clearly defined).

aagha 11y ago

I'm curious: What kind of $ amounts are we talking about here?