> Haskell sucks because mutability and strictness are extremely important for writing large complex programs, and Haskell deliberately makes both of these thing

> Haskell sucks because mutability and strictness are extremely important for writing large complex programs, and Haskell deliberately makes both of these things inconvenient. That's funny, because I'd say that immutability is essential for writing large on complex programs. Strictness, on the other hand, hmm, I can take it or leave it. > Haskell's ecosystem and tooling is still crappy No argument here. > because writing complex programs in Haskell needlessly difficult Argument here :) > And the "type-safety" guarantees are a red herring. They are not that useful in practice. I've found the opposite. Type safety has saved me so many headaches I'm never going back.