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Going back to the first article: it was around $300. But as a project for my home, the lack of wifi is more frustrating.
by pronoiac 11y ago
Going back to the first article: it was around $300. But as a project for my home, the lack of wifi is more frustrating.
- Aaargh20318 11y agoBut this article is about building a router, not sure what wifi has to do with it.
- cnvogel 11y agoI guess most people, when they hear the word Router, they think of their DSL-box. And those commonly have a WiFi access-point built in. (commonly also called CPE (customer premises equipment) by the telephone companies). $ ip route default via x.x.x.1 dev eno1 proto dhcp src x.x.x.x metric 1024 x.x.x.x/nn dev eno0 proto kernel scope link src x.x.x.x 192.168.2.0/24 dev br0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.2.114 192.168.2.1 dev br0 proto dhcp scope link src 192.168.2.114 metric 1024 $ ip link (...) 2: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> (...) Network guys, when hearing the word Router think of something that holds a full BGP view... BGP router identifier 213.200.87.253, local AS number 65534 BGP table version is 7863026, main routing table version 7863026 578096 network entries using 58387696 bytes of memory 578096 path entries using 27748608 bytes of memory 344077 BGP path attribute entries using 20645160 bytes of memory 129723 BGP AS-PATH entries using 3908750 bytes of memory 1054 BGP community entries using 58126 bytes of memory 4 BGP extended community entries using 96 bytes of memory 0 BGP route-map cache entries using 0 bytes of memory 0 BGP filter-list cache entries using 0 bytes of memory BGP using 110748436 total bytes of memory Dampening enabled. 145 history paths, 277 dampened paths BGP activity 730922/149406 prefixes, 731552/150036 paths, scan interval 60 secs Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent TblVer InQ OutQ Up/Down State/PfxRcd 213.200.64.93 4 3257 2823796 74946 7863002 0 0 3w5d 577951 Woodworkers, when hearing the word Router think of something that can effortlessly carve a groove into wood. So, who's right?
- chris_wot 11y agoWell, all of them. A router in computing parlance is just any device that forwards packets between networks. So the first two examples are both routers.
- Gracana 11y agoI'm disappointed that you didn't show some text for your last example. I'll make a little marble run for you. __________ ________ \ \ \ \ \ | | | | \ \___ \_____
- cnvogel 11y agoThanks, your help in visualizing woodwork is really appreciated ;-).
- Decade 11y agoOld network guys remember when networks were not all IP, and there were Novell IPX routers, and AppleTalk routers, and DECnet Phase IV routers, and CLNP lived on for a while due to phone carriers and IS-IS. And even in IP, BGP is only the latest in a long, sad story of routing protocols, and other protocols are usually used inside networks… including IS-IS.
- kjs3 11y agoIS-IS (in a somewhat variant form) lives on in 802.1aq.
- jlgaddis 11y agoWhy not just have GTT send you a default route if you're gonna run BGP at all?
- pronoiac 11y agoOops. While I know that wifi access points and routers can be separate, I'm used to people conversationally combining the two as "routers." Sorry about that!
- Aaargh20318 11y agoNot only can they be separate, they should be separate. Think of where you want to place your router ? (Usually in your server closet or close to where the fiber enters your house) Now think of where you want your access-point to be. Preferably somewhere central in your house, where it will give you the best coverage. So the best place to put an AP is usually a shitty place to put a router and vice-versa. They have no business being in the same box.
- kebolio 11y agorealistically, what is the best option for adding wireless networking to this or any other setup based on a generic box? i assume one can build an access point with a typical wifi dongle but i am not aware of any of the software means required.
- veddan 11y agoOn Linux you can use hostapd and dhcpd.
- Decade 11y agoRealistically, WiFi driver code sucks, and there is inherent tension between routing, which benefits from wires, and WiFi, which benefits from open space. See, for example, how the Google OnHubs have the minimum of just 1 LAN port. You can add WiFi to a generic box, but the Ars Technica staff are promoting a consensus that it’s better to use a separate access point that is designed to be good as an access point. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/review-ubiquiti-unifi-made-me-realize-how-terrible-consumer-wi-fi-gear-is/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/review-ubiquiti-unifi...
- javier2 11y agoWtf. When I open the link or search alibaba, all of these mini computers is listed at $1300+ :S