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Where is this "dilution" in the java world? I don't see it.
by ben_jones 11y ago
Where is this "dilution" in the java world? I don't see it.
- coldtea 11y agoThe Java world has 1/10 the programmers Javascript has (which is basically everyone doing web work). The Java world also historically had a parent company giving strong guidance. The Java world also has strong standard libs and tended to include everything and the kitchen sink in them (including full blown servers, XML/XSLT parsers) in the SDK (and EE SDK). Heck, it even has a full JS interpreter there. Even so, there was huge fragmentation of effort for things like web frameworks (Struts, WebWork, Spring, Cocoon, Turbine, Tapestry, and many many more). Actually, if you were doing Java in 2000-2010 it was a running joke how everybody would write their own framework. And I would argue that all the resources diverted to numerous Java-derivative languages (like Kotlin, Ceylon, Xtend, etc) would be better of in making Java better, or creating a single, community driven, Java successor, if there was a process (and access) for that. As it is, they are all doomed to remain niche players, and ultimately fail, while languages like C# and Swift march on.