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"school district" - this is exactly what OP is suggesting. Another obstacle with classist and racist origin. It really blows my mind why some countries have suc

by lukasm 10y ago

"school district" - this is exactly what OP is suggesting. Another obstacle with classist and racist origin. It really blows my mind why some countries have such incredibly stupid laws. Can you image a law when you can buy only in one shop if you are from a certain district? That would suck tremendously. No competition.

tzs 10y ago
Do you have a citation for the claim that school districts have classist and racist origin? As far as I can tell school districts arose at a time when it was completely impractical for children, other than those whose parents were wealthy enough to send them away to boarding school, to attend a school that was not local, and at a time when it was generally believed that local government should be responsible for local services (sanitation, roads, water, schools, etc). I don't see how at that time they could have been used for racist and classist purposes, so doubt that their origin was such.
- infosample 10y ago
  I'm not sure citation is needed to prove the origin and consequences of segregation. Black people could not live in white neighborhoods, black people could not go to school with white people until 1960. Whether classist, racist, or coincidence, the results are obvious.
  - tzs 10y ago
    > I'm not sure citation is needed to prove the origin and consequences of segregation And I didn't ask for one. I want one on the origin of school districts. As you noted, neighborhoods were segregated. As a consequence of that, everything local was de facto segregated, but that doesn't mean you can infer that everything local has a racist origin. For instance, since neighborhoods were segregated a neighborhood's sewers were generally only available to one race. Do you conclude that public sanitation has racist origins?
    - infosample 10y ago
      The sewer system and fire department were vastly inferior in the segregated neighborhood of Five Points in Denver, CO. Source: http://www.nolegacylost.com http://www.nolegacylost.com I'm surprised segregated/poorer neighborhoods having worse services is up for debate. Segregation had racist origins. Segregation was by race. But I concede, not everything local has a racist origin, obviously.
- infosample 10y ago
  >Do you have a citation for the claim that school districts have classist and racist origin? The 1896 Supreme Court case, Plessy v. Ferguson. Among these facilities were public schools, often located just miles apart, which separated white and colored students. In almost all instances, schools which educated colored students were underfunded, extensively degraded, and/or lacked the necessary materials to rigorously challenge the students. It was also estimated that the amount of per capita expenditures devoted towards colored students was 40-50% lower than for white students, further deepening the educational inequality between the two ethnic groups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_diversity_in_United_States_schools https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_diversity_in_United_Sta...

by lukasm 10y ago

tzs 10y ago

Do you have a citation for the claim that school districts have classist and racist origin? As far as I can tell school districts arose at a time when it was completely impractical for children, other than those whose parents were wealthy enough to send them away to boarding school, to attend a school that was not local, and at a time when it was generally believed that local government should be responsible for local services (sanitation, roads, water, schools, etc). I don't see how at that time they could have been used for racist and classist purposes, so doubt that their origin was such.

infosample 10y ago
I'm not sure citation is needed to prove the origin and consequences of segregation. Black people could not live in white neighborhoods, black people could not go to school with white people until 1960. Whether classist, racist, or coincidence, the results are obvious.
- tzs 10y ago
  > I'm not sure citation is needed to prove the origin and consequences of segregation And I didn't ask for one. I want one on the origin of school districts. As you noted, neighborhoods were segregated. As a consequence of that, everything local was de facto segregated, but that doesn't mean you can infer that everything local has a racist origin. For instance, since neighborhoods were segregated a neighborhood's sewers were generally only available to one race. Do you conclude that public sanitation has racist origins?
  - infosample 10y ago
    The sewer system and fire department were vastly inferior in the segregated neighborhood of Five Points in Denver, CO. Source: http://www.nolegacylost.com http://www.nolegacylost.com I'm surprised segregated/poorer neighborhoods having worse services is up for debate. Segregation had racist origins. Segregation was by race. But I concede, not everything local has a racist origin, obviously.
infosample 10y ago
>Do you have a citation for the claim that school districts have classist and racist origin? The 1896 Supreme Court case, Plessy v. Ferguson. Among these facilities were public schools, often located just miles apart, which separated white and colored students. In almost all instances, schools which educated colored students were underfunded, extensively degraded, and/or lacked the necessary materials to rigorously challenge the students. It was also estimated that the amount of per capita expenditures devoted towards colored students was 40-50% lower than for white students, further deepening the educational inequality between the two ethnic groups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_diversity_in_United_States_schools https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_diversity_in_United_Sta...