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The U.S. is not a Democracy; it is a Federal Republic, so demos is not applicable to the U.S. Yes, capital punishment is capital punishment, however, I don't kn
by eggy 11y ago
The U.S. is not a Democracy; it is a Federal Republic, so demos is not applicable to the U.S.
Yes, capital punishment is capital punishment, however, I don't know of a mentally-ill woman, or man put to death for a possible self-defense killing in the U.S., but I have not researched it fully. Murder is different than killing by law. The point is that Siti Zaenab Bt. Duhri Rupa, the Indonesian domestic helper who allegedly killed her employer's wife in Saudi Arabia had ZERO chance of a fair trial. The execution was carried out without informing the Indonesian government, or her family. I have worked in SE Asia and I have been to Qatar and Abu Dhabi and Dubai, and stories of domestic helpers being abused by employers there are typical, and numerous. I would wage the employer's wife abused her, and she may have had some mental illness, or at least it should have been made as a case considering the evidence, but NO, she being a woman, a foreign woman, stood no chance. I have turned down job offers in the countries I have mentioned, because I do think their cultures are not current with human rights as most nations at least profess them nowadays. For the record, I am against capital punishment, so I don't even want to debate the difference between lethal injection or beheading, but emotionally, having seen a broadcast of the beheading without knowing what I was watching at first, was shocking in the manner it was staged and carried out.
- GFK_of_xmaspast 11y agoPlenty of mentally ill people put to death in this country: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/02/texas-execution-mentally-ill-history-scott-panetti http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/02/texas-executi... https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/AMR51/003/2006/en/ https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/AMR51/003/2006/en/ See also Atkins v. Virginia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_v._Virginia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkins_v._Virginia
- eggy 11y agoThanks for pointing that out, and I'll have to look at it, but the death penalty is not for killing in self-defense; it is for murder. My point was that whether she was mentally ill or not, she was being abused, and acted in self-defense. The mental illness becomes a secondary factor to show self-defense crossed over to killing rather than avoidance or restraint.
- DanBC 11y agoAbout half the people shot and killed by police in the US have a mental illness.