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Well this is a load of drivel. And all yall are agreeing with it because every single person on this forum considers themselves smart so you like agreeing with

by nphang 10y ago

Well this is a load of drivel. And all yall are agreeing with it because every single person on this forum considers themselves smart so you like agreeing with people who claim to be smart and know smart people stuff. "so I took California’s GED test in June, 2012. It was dead easy." If that's your basis for calling yourself smart then I'm not impressed. I took the GED high as a kite and got a perfect math score (know what's similar about both our statements? we both sound like jerks). The GED isn't a smartness metric, it's a soap bubble test so white people don't get stuck as fry chefs for their whole lives. It's _supposed_ to be easy as long as you understand the questions. Welcome to the upper class nimwit. "People worry about Google and the instant availability of knowledge making people dumber, because we don’t have to memorize much anymore — Socrates felt the same anxiety when writing and reading were invented." Your events are off by a few _millenia_. "contrary to what teachers and school board members might want you to think, getting into college is easy if you’re intelligent and work hard to do interesting things" False. Just false. I mean, I'm assuming you want to go to a top tier college, not community college. Top tier colleges are for expanding the upper tiers of the gentry class, while community colleges allow entry into the gentry class. To move to the upper tiers of the gentry, you need to have shown that you respect the institution of the gentry, ie. going to high school. Exceptions maybe exist for prodigies or minorities who built a clock once (because that's soooo amazing, who here _didn't_ build shit like that as a kid), but in general skipping high school to learn sewing and greenhaus building is an acceptable path to an Amish lifestyle, not differential equations and the Ivy League. I thought it was generally acknowledged at this point that school isn't about education? School is about socialization, connections, and a prodding to at least have some depth of knowledge about a general corpus that it's accepted people should know about. No one actually expects you to be able to find x in real life, but everyone is familiar with the concept of finding x. I am an _astrophysicist_ and I use, at maximum, 5% of shit found in my physics texts through the year. _School is not about the shit in the books, that is not the point of school_, you're like an atheist telling a Catholic that Jesus was an asshole because evolution -- it's a valid point but it has nothing to do with the conjecture. School is an indoctrination procedure so we don't schism even further into our already highly segregated class based society, saying that it's a waste of time because class and homework are stupid is a correct statement, but misses the entire point. Even anarchists believe in school.

bitJericho 10y ago
That kid didn't build a clock, he put a clock in a suitcase, thought it didn't look like a bomb and brought it to school. What a smarty. I'm finding often when I'm learning new skills I realize I had some of this education in school at some point. I think that's the entire point of early schooling, to learn real skills as an adult, of any random subject, really fast.
corser 10y ago
Elite universities are not for expanding the gentry class. They are so that the elite can meet other elite as they are extremely distributed geographically, get married and continue on the class system. The lower class people that go there are aiming to join the elite, but the vast majority of them simply become highly paid servants to the owning class. We like to think that startups made by dropouts establish that anyone can make it big, but for the most part these startups are children of millionaires living off trust funds until they break through; like Trump, no one should consider these rags to riches stories, accomplished though they may be. The main point is that for elites, their schools are so that their girls can bring a nice boy home and not some trash from main street while their boys can find a wife that actually stands a chance at domesticating them. It's really just that most geeks are so focused on their projects that they forget that there are more important things, like their family. Hence why we constantly hear incredibly talented but socially awkward people call for the repeal of school. Because social things don't mean anything to them. They generally become tools of the elite class. I generally agree with the idea of creating environments where people can meet their future family because finding a quality spouse is extremely difficult without expensive and fool-proof filters in place. Connecting it with education is inevitable because children and young adults are nearly useless in a modern economy. We can't make it excellent education because there is a lot of economic and social pressure for truly talented individuals to abandon academia in favor of the market. My main complaint is that the elites are no longer virtuous so they do not deserve to exist anymore.

by nphang 10y ago

bitJericho 10y ago

That kid didn't build a clock, he put a clock in a suitcase, thought it didn't look like a bomb and brought it to school. What a smarty. I'm finding often when I'm learning new skills I realize I had some of this education in school at some point. I think that's the entire point of early schooling, to learn real skills as an adult, of any random subject, really fast.

corser 10y ago

Elite universities are not for expanding the gentry class. They are so that the elite can meet other elite as they are extremely distributed geographically, get married and continue on the class system. The lower class people that go there are aiming to join the elite, but the vast majority of them simply become highly paid servants to the owning class. We like to think that startups made by dropouts establish that anyone can make it big, but for the most part these startups are children of millionaires living off trust funds until they break through; like Trump, no one should consider these rags to riches stories, accomplished though they may be. The main point is that for elites, their schools are so that their girls can bring a nice boy home and not some trash from main street while their boys can find a wife that actually stands a chance at domesticating them. It's really just that most geeks are so focused on their projects that they forget that there are more important things, like their family. Hence why we constantly hear incredibly talented but socially awkward people call for the repeal of school. Because social things don't mean anything to them. They generally become tools of the elite class. I generally agree with the idea of creating environments where people can meet their future family because finding a quality spouse is extremely difficult without expensive and fool-proof filters in place. Connecting it with education is inevitable because children and young adults are nearly useless in a modern economy. We can't make it excellent education because there is a lot of economic and social pressure for truly talented individuals to abandon academia in favor of the market. My main complaint is that the elites are no longer virtuous so they do not deserve to exist anymore.