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I'm not speaking one way or the other about Flash, but I'm so sick of Adobe/Flash being so pitifully defensive about Flash on mobile devices and the iPad. Some

by dpcan 17y ago

I'm not speaking one way or the other about Flash, but I'm so sick of Adobe/Flash being so pitifully defensive about Flash on mobile devices and the iPad. Someone in the community is going to be a Flash hater. Someone is going to cry about battery life. Flash is on the N1, you win, now start talking about the awesomeness it DOES bring! What kind of company spends this amount of time talking about the crappiest part of their product? An explanation is fine, but to go on and get weird about by talking about potential percentage levels in a few Vimeo videos. That just seems so odd to me. How many of their users actually saw this video?

tomlin 17y ago
"What kind of company spends this amount of time talking about the crappiest part of their product?" There is a lot of BS out there regarding Flash. For example, on HN I can up my karma easily by just hating on Flash. I don't need prove it or show evidence. As long as I am part of the "gang" mentality, then I am welcome to shoot my mouth off. So then there are those who wanna see evidence (crazy people, I know!). We get scenarios like these -- where the debunker must over explain, over analyze and over emphasize to get the message across.
icco 17y ago
Adobe gets so much hate, in my mind, it is worth their time to fight all of the unsupported bs that is thrown their direction. I mean if you called my mother a whore everyday for 10 years to my face, at some point I would punch you. This is Adobe throwing punches. As for Adobe talking about the good parts of their product, they do it all of the time. Read through their other posts on that blog, and you will see all kinds of interesting innovative content such as http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/08/12/flash-development-with-android-part2/ http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/08/12/flash-development-... http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/25/acrobat-connect-pro-is-now-on-the-appstore/ http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/25/acrobat-connect-pr... http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/03/iphone-testing-geolocation-as3-api/ http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/03/iphone-testing-geo... and http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/11/06/max-award-winners-qnx-video/ http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/11/06/max-award-winners-... This is the Flash Mobile blog, there is also a platform blog with a lot of interesting stuff on it as well. I'm not a flash lover, but I think there is something to brand defense, and if that gets them publicity, when their interesting work does not, then why should they stop?
wayneb 17y ago
What kind of company spends so much time making direct/fallacious attacks on their competitors instead of just talking up the best parts of their product? Apple. Apple has directly put both Microsoft and Adobe on the defensive. This time it's because of a recent, widely aired comment made by Steve Jobs about battery life. Apple is the aggressor here, they are the one's being dicks. I don't hate on anybody for defending themselves unless they lie about the facts. Aggressors who lie are the worst though.

by dpcan 17y ago

tomlin 17y ago

"What kind of company spends this amount of time talking about the crappiest part of their product?" There is a lot of BS out there regarding Flash. For example, on HN I can up my karma easily by just hating on Flash. I don't need prove it or show evidence. As long as I am part of the "gang" mentality, then I am welcome to shoot my mouth off. So then there are those who wanna see evidence (crazy people, I know!). We get scenarios like these -- where the debunker must over explain, over analyze and over emphasize to get the message across.

icco 17y ago

Adobe gets so much hate, in my mind, it is worth their time to fight all of the unsupported bs that is thrown their direction. I mean if you called my mother a whore everyday for 10 years to my face, at some point I would punch you. This is Adobe throwing punches. As for Adobe talking about the good parts of their product, they do it all of the time. Read through their other posts on that blog, and you will see all kinds of interesting innovative content such as http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/08/12/flash-development-with-android-part2/ http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/08/12/flash-development-... http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/25/acrobat-connect-pro-is-now-on-the-appstore/ http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/25/acrobat-connect-pr... http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/03/iphone-testing-geolocation-as3-api/ http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2010/02/03/iphone-testing-geo... and http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/11/06/max-award-winners-qnx-video/ http://www.flashmobileblog.com/2009/11/06/max-award-winners-... This is the Flash Mobile blog, there is also a platform blog with a lot of interesting stuff on it as well. I'm not a flash lover, but I think there is something to brand defense, and if that gets them publicity, when their interesting work does not, then why should they stop?

wayneb 17y ago

What kind of company spends so much time making direct/fallacious attacks on their competitors instead of just talking up the best parts of their product? Apple. Apple has directly put both Microsoft and Adobe on the defensive. This time it's because of a recent, widely aired comment made by Steve Jobs about battery life. Apple is the aggressor here, they are the one's being dicks. I don't hate on anybody for defending themselves unless they lie about the facts. Aggressors who lie are the worst though.