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If there's a consensus on what's wrong with pentagon procurement, the bullet points are: (1) no 'feasability feedback' mechanism to reject wishlist items that
by awinter-py 11y ago
If there's a consensus on what's wrong with pentagon procurement, the bullet points are:
(1) no 'feasability feedback' mechanism to reject wishlist items that inflate complexity or delivery date,
(2) focus on 'joint procurement', i.e. one product that solves army / air force / navy problems, i.e. a flying submarine with wheels,
(3) lead times are too long for bespoke products (by the time it's delivered your needs have changed).
A-10 was built based on CAS lessons that had been learned the hard way in Nam, where helicopters had to take the place of fixed-wing airplanes that couldn't do the job. (meaning it was built to do one thing well). It wasn't a swiss-army knife.
If you believe that it's not practical to build a swiss-army knife aircraft, then you probably weren't surprised by the crappy fighters we turned out in the 90s and 00s. The head airplane designer on china's F-22 killer basically laughed when he was asked about the F-35, and said 'the best thing that ever happened to us was when the US decided to put VTOL in their main fighter -- and not even in all of them.' China could never afford to do that but arguably the US can't either. A post-IOC F-35C had its wings fall off (yes) and the pentagon lockheed liaison's explanation was 'the pilot was too heavy, we're looking into it'.
Even more interesting than the A-10 is the F-16; it was a backburner project at lockheed and the pentagon tried to shut it down because they didn't want it stealing any PR thunder from the bigger badder F-15. These days the F-16 is doing every job because it's cheap, easy to maintain, lots of people can fly them. Lockheed just shut down the line for these but the aftermarket is booming.
- awinter-py 11y agomartha mcsally of the arizona 2nd flew A-10s in kuwait and is the loudest voice in congress to keep them flying.
- brudgers 11y agoMy impression has been that the A10 was developed as a jet propelled successor to the A1 Skyraider. It saw a similar long service life fullfilling similar close air support missions. As with the A10 currently, the A1's use in combat was often different from the "last war" role for which it was designed and built: range, robustness, and ordinance capacity for sinking battleships translated to long loiter. It's long service life was probably also a function of development as a naval weapon system due to institutional culture and the practical advantage of carrier landing ruggedness.
- engi_nerd 11y ago"A post IOC F-35C had its wings fall off” Stop making things up. The C variant won't be declared operationally capable for at least another year, probably two. No C model " had its wings fall off". A test aircraft undergoing lifetime fatigue testing in a loads fixture had some wing spar cracks. I don't mean to dismiss that issue, because it is serious, but that's hardly having the wings fall off.
- awinter-py 11y agook, fair point. http://www.janes.com/article/55987/wing-spar-cracks-found-on-usn-f-35-variant http://www.janes.com/article/55987/wing-spar-cracks-found-on...