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We don't need to take the Internet back from the various platforms, we need serious and strict legislation about what they do with both what we share and what w

We don't need to take the Internet back from the various platforms, we need serious and strict legislation about what they do with both what we share and what we are. There is nothing wrong with a Facebook inherently; the simple fact is we as users have been extremely complacent in what companies like Facebook are allowed to do. I think that's starting to get better as the population gets more savvy but at the same time we're still nowhere close to where we need to be. I think it's a fundamental problem with how you approach the relationship with a service like that: They give you a Terms of Service, or what you're allowed to do to be able to use that service. I think we need to flip that around entirely and instead mandate that Facebook has to ask, explicitly, for everything. And more importantly there need to be serious consequences for when those rules are violated. Every relationship with a network of any kind starts at a position of they own everything, and then they tell you what you actually own and I think it's backwards. We should start from a position of we own everything, and this is what you're ALLOWED to take and use. I think that's far more feasible to do than a distributed Facebook. Not saying it's impossible, just saying it's a shorter route and betters the relationship we have with the things and companies we do business with overall.

qznc 11y ago
That is what just happened in the EU parlament: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20160407IPR21776/Data-protection-reform-Parliament-approves-new-rules-fit-for-the-digital-era http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20160407IPR2... > The new rules include provisions on: A right to be forgotten, "clear and affirmative consent" to the processing of private data by the person concerned, a right to transfer your data to another service provider, the right to know when your data has been hacked, ensuring that privacy policies are explained in clear and understandable language, and stronger enforcement and fines up to 4% of firms' total worldwide annual turnover, as a deterrent to breaking the rules. We'll see how that turns out.
ypeterholmes 11y ago
To piggyback on this, any strategy that requires competing with these established private web companies is doomed to fail. People will not choose a lesser service for moral reasons. Rather, as you indicate, the key to keeping things beneficial to the community at large will be through political power. So we don't need another facebook. We need digital tools that organize meaningful political power in an effort to re-establish a government for and by the people.

qznc 11y ago

That is what just happened in the EU parlament: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20160407IPR21776/Data-protection-reform-Parliament-approves-new-rules-fit-for-the-digital-era http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20160407IPR2... > The new rules include provisions on: A right to be forgotten, "clear and affirmative consent" to the processing of private data by the person concerned, a right to transfer your data to another service provider, the right to know when your data has been hacked, ensuring that privacy policies are explained in clear and understandable language, and stronger enforcement and fines up to 4% of firms' total worldwide annual turnover, as a deterrent to breaking the rules. We'll see how that turns out.

ypeterholmes 11y ago

To piggyback on this, any strategy that requires competing with these established private web companies is doomed to fail. People will not choose a lesser service for moral reasons. Rather, as you indicate, the key to keeping things beneficial to the community at large will be through political power. So we don't need another facebook. We need digital tools that organize meaningful political power in an effort to re-establish a government for and by the people.