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I've got a few issues: 1. It's Windows only. I do not personally use Windows nor do I have a single peer developer, designer, or project manager (the ones who

by cwilson 17y ago

I've got a few issues: 1. It's Windows only. I do not personally use Windows nor do I have a single peer developer, designer, or project manager (the ones who would primarily be using this for mockups) who uses Windows. It's all Mac in the web dev world these days. A web app or a native Mac app would have been very nice here. As it is I will never use your product. 2. From what I do see, it looks exactly like a number of competitors. 3. You're not doing anything to make this the mockup tool I would use over other established mockup tools out there. Is your niche here that it's Windows? If so... I don't really know what to say. I'm really curious as to why there is this current trend of mockup tools being created. Do we really need a dozen clones of each other out there? Why is no one innovating in this space and just releasing just another carbon copy every single time?

dchest 17y ago
HN has a lot of developers who don't use Windows (me too, I'm a Mac developer, in former life a Windows developer). However, it is not the case that most web developers use Macs, and certainly not outside of US. But forget web developers, how about Windows developers? As for innovation, my opinion is that it doesn't come out of blue. Sit and think about some innovative idea, then implement it? This doesn't work, or at least, this doesn't work for me. What works for me is that I refine something over and over again, and then, accidentally, there will be a thing that people will call "innovative." As pg noted in one of the essays, a lot of ideas come while writing an essay, not thinking of writing it. This is what we are aiming for, and this is why we're releasing this version today, and not sitting and thinking of what innovative things we can do. Innovation will come with iteration. This is why I can assure you that we're not aiming to create pointless clones, I hate them too. This is just the beginning. Thanks for your feedback, which is very useful for us!
- cwilson 17y ago
  I actually completely agree with your definition of innovation and that's exactly how I think about it. What I would ask you is, how have you guys innovated with your definition in mind? When I said I saw no innovation I meant that I literally saw a carbon copy of a dozen other products out there. Do you take in mind those other products as part of that refinement cycle you mention? If so, how is yours the next step in refinement and what has changed or become more streamlined? I understand this may be your goal moving forward, but I still see it as a bit silly to start at the same exact point as a dozen other startups and hope that you'll somehow beat them in a race of iterating and in turn innovating. Why should I use your product over theirs?

by cwilson 17y ago

dchest 17y ago

HN has a lot of developers who don't use Windows (me too, I'm a Mac developer, in former life a Windows developer). However, it is not the case that most web developers use Macs, and certainly not outside of US. But forget web developers, how about Windows developers? As for innovation, my opinion is that it doesn't come out of blue. Sit and think about some innovative idea, then implement it? This doesn't work, or at least, this doesn't work for me. What works for me is that I refine something over and over again, and then, accidentally, there will be a thing that people will call "innovative." As pg noted in one of the essays, a lot of ideas come while writing an essay, not thinking of writing it. This is what we are aiming for, and this is why we're releasing this version today, and not sitting and thinking of what innovative things we can do. Innovation will come with iteration. This is why I can assure you that we're not aiming to create pointless clones, I hate them too. This is just the beginning. Thanks for your feedback, which is very useful for us!

cwilson 17y ago
I actually completely agree with your definition of innovation and that's exactly how I think about it. What I would ask you is, how have you guys innovated with your definition in mind? When I said I saw no innovation I meant that I literally saw a carbon copy of a dozen other products out there. Do you take in mind those other products as part of that refinement cycle you mention? If so, how is yours the next step in refinement and what has changed or become more streamlined? I understand this may be your goal moving forward, but I still see it as a bit silly to start at the same exact point as a dozen other startups and hope that you'll somehow beat them in a race of iterating and in turn innovating. Why should I use your product over theirs?