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I don't get this article. Other than defining a bunch of new words, what are they exactly saying the problem is, and what are they saying the solution is? Jus

by powera 11y ago

I don't get this article. Other than defining a bunch of new words, what are they exactly saying the problem is, and what are they saying the solution is? Just saying that <the solution isn't diaspora, it's swadeshi> is complete nonsense. And the problem seems to be <something big corporations do> but they never really say what.

datamonsteryum 11y ago
I take it as being about who holds (and therefore owns) the data. It's not that the corporations are evil, it's that we're operating in a system where only the corporations get to accumulate the data in their hands.
gingerrr 11y ago
The problem: > The internet has been stolen from you. Scooped out of your hands without much of a fuss. A small number of corporations are locked in a zero-sum game of land grabs. The solution: > The solution is to decentralize further, relying on a peer-to-peer model...In short, create an app, one that you run on your computer or phone, that writes social data (aka “posts”) into local databases and then replicates those databases to peers using a peer-to-peer protocol Directly from the article, and it's surprisingly detailed in implementation suggestions - I'm forced to conclude your lack of understanding is willful.
- powera 11y ago
  You don't seem to have understood my comment at all. In what way is Diaspora, the (failed) 2010 solution to this "problem", at all different from what you say the solution is now? And other than "controlled by corporations", what problem are you even trying to solve?
- landryraccoon 11y ago
  > The internet has been stolen from you. This isn't a felt need. I don't feel inconvenienced by this. I don't feel the loss of something I once owned or had the benefit of. > The solution is to decentralize further, The solution solves a very abstract problem. I would go so far as to say it's a religious or spiritual need only that is solved by this. Decentralization will not improve my life or meet any felt need (I am not less hungry, less lonely, more clothed, more sheltered, or more socially connected as a result of this product). The only benefit I could have is if I had a religious belief in the moral need for this type of system, and that system satisfied that moral belief. I think that's a very small minority of users.

by powera 11y ago

datamonsteryum 11y ago

I take it as being about who holds (and therefore owns) the data. It's not that the corporations are evil, it's that we're operating in a system where only the corporations get to accumulate the data in their hands.

gingerrr 11y ago

The problem: > The internet has been stolen from you. Scooped out of your hands without much of a fuss. A small number of corporations are locked in a zero-sum game of land grabs. The solution: > The solution is to decentralize further, relying on a peer-to-peer model...In short, create an app, one that you run on your computer or phone, that writes social data (aka “posts”) into local databases and then replicates those databases to peers using a peer-to-peer protocol Directly from the article, and it's surprisingly detailed in implementation suggestions - I'm forced to conclude your lack of understanding is willful.

powera 11y ago
You don't seem to have understood my comment at all. In what way is Diaspora, the (failed) 2010 solution to this "problem", at all different from what you say the solution is now? And other than "controlled by corporations", what problem are you even trying to solve?
landryraccoon 11y ago
> The internet has been stolen from you. This isn't a felt need. I don't feel inconvenienced by this. I don't feel the loss of something I once owned or had the benefit of. > The solution is to decentralize further, The solution solves a very abstract problem. I would go so far as to say it's a religious or spiritual need only that is solved by this. Decentralization will not improve my life or meet any felt need (I am not less hungry, less lonely, more clothed, more sheltered, or more socially connected as a result of this product). The only benefit I could have is if I had a religious belief in the moral need for this type of system, and that system satisfied that moral belief. I think that's a very small minority of users.