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it's super subjective until the government defines it and regulates it (read penalize mis-labeling).

crispyambulance 11y ago
You're right about that. The same thing happened with the name "organic". Sadly, some restaurateurs have been taking advantage of the "farm-to-table" terminology. In France and Italy some foods and wines have AOC/DOC designations meaning that the food item's name means was produced in a geographically defined place, usually with traditional methods and NOT from some random factory in another country. There are penalties in place for people that attempt to label a product with a controlled name. "Farm-to-table" has a different definition than AOC/DOC, but there's a lot in common in spirit. AOC : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellation_d%27origine_contr%C3%B4l%C3%A9e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellation_d%27origine_contr%... DOC : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denominazione_di_origine_controllata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denominazione_di_origine_contr...
mindcrime 11y ago
it's super subjective until the government defines it and regulates it (read penalize mis-labeling). reply Yeah, once the government gets involved, it'll still be all lies, but it'll be legal because somebody paid off the right regulator, or because the regulator owns shares in the restaurant, etc. And then this kind of thing will be used as a weapon to inhibit the entry of new competitors into the market, to the benefit of the entrenched players.
- smacktoward 11y ago
  You're overly cynical. Nobody in the United States worries about buying adulterated milk, or medications that are actually mixtures of flavored syrup and radium, or bread that uses sawdust as a cheap filler, because there's clear standards for what something labeled as "milk" or "bread" means and regulators with the power to enforce those standards. Lots of other countries don't have those things, which is how things like this happen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal
FireBeyond 11y ago
Then again: "The food supply chain is so vast and so complicated. It has yielded extra-virgin olive oil that is actually colored sunflower oil" That's not "complicated", it's outright fraud. More objectively so than the subjective "local".

You're right about that. The same thing happened with the name "organic". Sadly, some restaurateurs have been taking advantage of the "farm-to-table" terminology. In France and Italy some foods and wines have AOC/DOC designations meaning that the food item's name means was produced in a geographically defined place, usually with traditional methods and NOT from some random factory in another country. There are penalties in place for people that attempt to label a product with a controlled name. "Farm-to-table" has a different definition than AOC/DOC, but there's a lot in common in spirit. AOC : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellation_d%27origine_contr%C3%B4l%C3%A9e https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appellation_d%27origine_contr%... DOC : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denominazione_di_origine_controllata https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denominazione_di_origine_contr...

mindcrime 11y ago

it's super subjective until the government defines it and regulates it (read penalize mis-labeling). reply Yeah, once the government gets involved, it'll still be all lies, but it'll be legal because somebody paid off the right regulator, or because the regulator owns shares in the restaurant, etc. And then this kind of thing will be used as a weapon to inhibit the entry of new competitors into the market, to the benefit of the entrenched players.

smacktoward 11y ago
You're overly cynical. Nobody in the United States worries about buying adulterated milk, or medications that are actually mixtures of flavored syrup and radium, or bread that uses sawdust as a cheap filler, because there's clear standards for what something labeled as "milk" or "bread" means and regulators with the power to enforce those standards. Lots of other countries don't have those things, which is how things like this happen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal

FireBeyond 11y ago

Then again: "The food supply chain is so vast and so complicated. It has yielded extra-virgin olive oil that is actually colored sunflower oil" That's not "complicated", it's outright fraud. More objectively so than the subjective "local".