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Alternately, similar actions are taken by many on the right as part of a concerted effort to slash and destroy social programs. They support widely popular res

by wfo 11y ago

Alternately, similar actions are taken by many on the right as part of a concerted effort to slash and destroy social programs. They support widely popular resolutions (tax cuts? Nobody is against tax cuts. The only debate is which section of the population gets bulk of the money, hint: it's not the poor). They shift money around and remove it from sound programs like social security so it goes bankrupt. They intentionally privatize and mismanage government programs so they fail. Then when there isn't enough money to go around come budget balancing time, whoops looks like we have to slash health care budgets. Education budgets? You only really NEED 50% of that, right? Why is the state paying to help kids go to college? These programs are horribly mismanaged and inefficient [because we have made them so], the market will do a MUCH better job if we just insert a corporate middleman between the people who need services and the people who provide them. It would be nice to let public employees exercise their rights and bargain collectively, but you know it's just too darn expensive. Those contracts we signed to give people pensions? Well it's not our fault we can't pay them now, it's just the economic reality. We all have to make sacrifices [except the rich]. Look at the adult conservatives being responsible, making the hard choices to cut things that need to be cut. Rinse, repeat, slash and burn.

sbuttgereit 10y ago
Which bills from left or right have removed money from the Social Security Trust Fund? The deficit in Social Security has more to do with the fact that population dynamics don't favor a scheme where younger worker's money is taken from them and given to older people when the population is declining. Let me make your The only debate is which section of the population gets bulk of the money, hint: it's not the poor statement more accurate: The only debate is which section of the population gets to keep it's money that was slated for confiscation, hint: it's not the poor since they don't pay taxes to begin with. What was the last program that the "right" actually rolled back that wasn't actually replaced with something more grand? Sure, in new programs they maybe didn't grow things as much as today's radical, er, mainstream left would like. But our compassionate conservatives have expanded government at every turn; they'll talk about reform, but the majority never mention terminating these things... even good ol' Trump makes no such claims. Ted Cruz, maybe, but most rank and file Republicans don't like him, remember? I'm sorry. But most of your arguments sound like propaganda and are disconnected from reality. I grant you so-called conservatives like to have their private/public partnerships, which are as wrong as the programs that they target. But few actually try to dismantle the programs... they simply try to structure the gravy train.

by wfo 11y ago

sbuttgereit 10y ago

Which bills from left or right have removed money from the Social Security Trust Fund? The deficit in Social Security has more to do with the fact that population dynamics don't favor a scheme where younger worker's money is taken from them and given to older people when the population is declining. Let me make your The only debate is which section of the population gets bulk of the money, hint: it's not the poor statement more accurate: The only debate is which section of the population gets to keep it's money that was slated for confiscation, hint: it's not the poor since they don't pay taxes to begin with. What was the last program that the "right" actually rolled back that wasn't actually replaced with something more grand? Sure, in new programs they maybe didn't grow things as much as today's radical, er, mainstream left would like. But our compassionate conservatives have expanded government at every turn; they'll talk about reform, but the majority never mention terminating these things... even good ol' Trump makes no such claims. Ted Cruz, maybe, but most rank and file Republicans don't like him, remember? I'm sorry. But most of your arguments sound like propaganda and are disconnected from reality. I grant you so-called conservatives like to have their private/public partnerships, which are as wrong as the programs that they target. But few actually try to dismantle the programs... they simply try to structure the gravy train.