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Yup. Even if Google and MS disabled their built-in shorteners or made them not-actually-short, if I send a URL over a Twitter DM, it will get shortened... and

by Pxtl 11y ago

Yup. Even if Google and MS disabled their built-in shorteners or made them not-actually-short, if I send a URL over a Twitter DM, it will get shortened... and I doubt that twitter's url-shortening forwarder will restrict access to the url to sender and recipient. Fundamentally, long-urls-as-security makes mathematical sense but doesn't actually work with the way the web behaves. URLs are shared constantly, freely. If we had everybody using the same auth systems so we could do whitelists without "oh you need a google account" or "oh you need an MS account" then whitelists would be a solition, but In Real Life whitelists get in the way so instead people just rip out the security altogether and count on the security of the URL. Imho, public-with-shared-password would be the right feature to add, even though it's anachronistic.

barrkel 11y ago
Is it reasonable to expect driving directions to be password protected? That example is used in the article and I think it's an excellent test case for thinking about alternative approaches. Driving directions by themselves are usually pretty innocuous. When one end is something like an abortion clinic, it gets a bit more sensitive; when the other end is a specific house, even more so. And I don't think you can expect driving directions to ever get password protected. Some links are like words - merely a reference; some are like sentences - describing some relation or fact; and some are like passwords - describing how to find or access something that you wouldn't otherwise know. The first are not revealing when out of context; the last are always dubious. It's the middle case, describing a relation (like driving directions) that's most problematic.
- Pxtl 11y ago
  It would be reasonable to offer the option when you hit the "share" button. I would assume people who care about privacy but are sharing with non-Google people would like the ability to add a shared password to the map.

by Pxtl 11y ago

barrkel 11y ago

Is it reasonable to expect driving directions to be password protected? That example is used in the article and I think it's an excellent test case for thinking about alternative approaches. Driving directions by themselves are usually pretty innocuous. When one end is something like an abortion clinic, it gets a bit more sensitive; when the other end is a specific house, even more so. And I don't think you can expect driving directions to ever get password protected. Some links are like words - merely a reference; some are like sentences - describing some relation or fact; and some are like passwords - describing how to find or access something that you wouldn't otherwise know. The first are not revealing when out of context; the last are always dubious. It's the middle case, describing a relation (like driving directions) that's most problematic.

Pxtl 11y ago
It would be reasonable to offer the option when you hit the "share" button. I would assume people who care about privacy but are sharing with non-Google people would like the ability to add a shared password to the map.