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> For people like you who want to believe that Africa is in a war, I happen to live in Africa. You ignored all of the examples I gave you. Zimbabwe has probabl
by w00pla 17y ago
> For people like you who want to believe that Africa is in a war,
I happen to live in Africa. You ignored all of the examples I gave you. Zimbabwe has probably one of the largest displaced populations in the word – yet you do not view this as a “war”.
> Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_conflicts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_conflicts
Yeah, it doesn’t include Zimbabwe. It doesn’t include the eastern DRC. So you use unfinished or badly written WP articles as your source? Or do you use an extremely strange definition of conflict?
> The Asian wars are killing a hell of a lot more people than the African wars also.
Again, you are wrong. Firstly, of the Asian countries you mentioned, only India counts as a 1000+ deaths per year (with a population of 1.5 times that of sub-Sahara Africa).
> If you want to believe that nothing is getting better, then let's not continue the conversation.
You seem to base your argument on ignorance and self-delusion that is typical of the African renaissance movement. So I doubt that this conversation would be informative from your side.
> If you are willing to actually look at the facts and compare the 80s to now, then we can talk.
You made the statement “Of the ongoing conflicts with 1000+ deaths per year, 6 are in Asia and only 2 are in Africa.” which is blatantly false (by your own citation). Sure the place stabilised since the 80ies – only because the USSR fell (a major sponsor of conflict).
Then again, the 90ies an early 00ies were not particularly rosy (Rwanda, DRC war).
- maxklein 17y agoMy citation says that there are 6 in asian and 2 in Africa. How is this false? And Iraq has way more than 1000+ deaths a year. Living in Africa does not make you an authority. Point to some proof for your statements.
- w00pla 17y ago> My citation says that there are 6 in asian and 2 in Africa. How is this false? You use an extremely broad “definition” of Asia (i.e. instead of the Africa, Middle-East, Asia) you group everything that is remotely in Asia as Asia. If we take your definition into account, the population of Asia is 5.7 times that of sub-Sahara Africa. You also conveniently leave out civil wars from that list (e.g. Eastern DRC, Zimbabwe, etc…). Why is Zimbabwe left out? Do you know that thousands of people either die through state famine or killed by Zanu thugs? > And Iraq has way more than 1000+ deaths a year. Ahh… yeah an American war in the Middle East. Let’s group that with “Asia” and compare a land-mass of 4 billion people to a continent of less than 1. > Living in Africa does not make you an authority. Point to some proof for your statements. I have shown you numerous shortcomings in your Wikipedia article. Yet you persist to compare apples and oranges (sub-Sahara Africa is small compared to Asia). Maybe living in Africa (and having lived in various African countries) does not make me an expert. But neither is someone who never even visited the continent and relies on half-baked WP articles. You are in denial about Africa and the violence in Africa. From your posts I cannot determine if you are just extremely ignorant or if you are a troll. For your part I hope that you are a troll.
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- pg 17y agoOk, guys, time to stop please.