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I suppose you might be saying that, as a matter of fact, (it happens that) their needs are not met by modern society. Or are you saying it's all our fault as us

by vixen99 11y ago

I suppose you might be saying that, as a matter of fact, (it happens that) their needs are not met by modern society. Or are you saying it's all our fault as usual? I'm probably missing something but how has the West worked hard to make Muslims feel impotent? Totally agree with your final point. There's not much sign if any that a re-framing of Islam is going to take place. Ever tried asking a Muslim if there is any bit of the Koran that should be ignored or altered? "Pew Poll Finds Overwhelming Support For Executing People For Apostasy In Afghanistan and Other Muslim Nations" https://jonathanturley.org/2013/05/03/pew-poll-finds-overwhelming-support-for-executing-people-for-apostasy-in-afghanistan-and-other-muslim-nations/ https://jonathanturley.org/2013/05/03/pew-poll-finds-overwhe...

x5n1 11y ago
> Or are you saying it's all our fault as usual? I dunno. Do all people have the right to feel important and powerful, even when don't work in the framework of capitalism and modern economics to do so? Is that not their own fault for not integrating into the modern system like China, South Korea, or Singapore have? > I'm probably missing something but how has the West worked hard to make Muslims feel impotent? Various wars, alliances, propping up Israel, and British Empire before that. Muslims in general don't want to see other Muslims attacked by non-Muslims. They are fine if Muslims attack each other though.
Kristine1975 11y ago
Report on the Pew Poll: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01... Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam Not "other Muslim Nations" as the blog author claims. And: Pew notes that many respondents said sharia should apply only to Muslims and, just as importantly, that "Muslims differ widely in how they interpret certain aspects of sharia, including whether divorce and family planning are morally acceptable."

by vixen99 11y ago

x5n1 11y ago

> Or are you saying it's all our fault as usual? I dunno. Do all people have the right to feel important and powerful, even when don't work in the framework of capitalism and modern economics to do so? Is that not their own fault for not integrating into the modern system like China, South Korea, or Singapore have? > I'm probably missing something but how has the West worked hard to make Muslims feel impotent? Various wars, alliances, propping up Israel, and British Empire before that. Muslims in general don't want to see other Muslims attacked by non-Muslims. They are fine if Muslims attack each other though.

Kristine1975 11y ago

Report on the Pew Poll: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01... Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam Not "other Muslim Nations" as the blog author claims. And: Pew notes that many respondents said sharia should apply only to Muslims and, just as importantly, that "Muslims differ widely in how they interpret certain aspects of sharia, including whether divorce and family planning are morally acceptable."