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It looks like you can search Delaware's database if anyone has a spare $20 to pull information. [1] [1] https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/Ecorp/EntitySearch/NameS

by Dwolb 11y ago

It looks like you can search Delaware's database if anyone has a spare $20 to pull information. [1] [1] https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/Ecorp/EntitySearch/NameSearch.aspx https://icis.corp.delaware.gov/Ecorp/EntitySearch/NameSearch...

ilolu 11y ago
You can search basic information without paying. Just searching for Cruise Automation reveals Incorporation date as 24/09/2013
snowwrestler 11y ago
Ok but one would think that some enterprising lawyer at GM or Ycombinator or on retainer to Sam Altman, investor, would think to do this, right? Without looking at the incorporation documents on file, I'm sure they don't say that Jeremy gets 50% of the stock. If they did, there wouldn't be a lawsuit. It would be cut and dry. I think what Jeremy is arguing is that he and Kyle had an agreement in the early days before paperwork, and that that agreement was not properly documented when the paperwork was written up. This is an extremely difficult thing to prove, and Kyle and his investors will no doubt lean heavily on the actual paperwork to sway the court.
- _sentient 11y ago
  This is wrong. Both the original suit and counter-complaint directly reference the fact that Kyle founded the company before meeting/engaging with Jeremy.
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  - snowwrestler 11y ago
    You're right about the date of incorporation, so my comments about "before paperwork" were wrong. Anyway, my main point above was that giving Delaware $20 to download the incorporation documents is not likely to resolve the case. Thanks.
    - baseh 11y ago
      I dont think it has officers names on that $20 report. >If you are requesting the $20 detailed information option, this application will not return actual images of the documents on record. This application will return a page listing the 5 most recent filings, franchise tax assessment, total authorized shares if applicable and tax due. Officer and Director names and addresses are maintained on the images of the annual reports and are not available through this application. If you wish to order a copy of an annual report please call 302-739-3073 for more information

by Dwolb 11y ago

ilolu 11y ago

You can search basic information without paying. Just searching for Cruise Automation reveals Incorporation date as 24/09/2013

snowwrestler 11y ago

Ok but one would think that some enterprising lawyer at GM or Ycombinator or on retainer to Sam Altman, investor, would think to do this, right? Without looking at the incorporation documents on file, I'm sure they don't say that Jeremy gets 50% of the stock. If they did, there wouldn't be a lawsuit. It would be cut and dry. I think what Jeremy is arguing is that he and Kyle had an agreement in the early days before paperwork, and that that agreement was not properly documented when the paperwork was written up. This is an extremely difficult thing to prove, and Kyle and his investors will no doubt lean heavily on the actual paperwork to sway the court.

_sentient 11y ago
This is wrong. Both the original suit and counter-complaint directly reference the fact that Kyle founded the company before meeting/engaging with Jeremy.
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- snowwrestler 11y ago
  You're right about the date of incorporation, so my comments about "before paperwork" were wrong. Anyway, my main point above was that giving Delaware $20 to download the incorporation documents is not likely to resolve the case. Thanks.
  - baseh 11y ago
    I dont think it has officers names on that $20 report. >If you are requesting the $20 detailed information option, this application will not return actual images of the documents on record. This application will return a page listing the 5 most recent filings, franchise tax assessment, total authorized shares if applicable and tax due. Officer and Director names and addresses are maintained on the images of the annual reports and are not available through this application. If you wish to order a copy of an annual report please call 302-739-3073 for more information